Speaking in Tongues

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What happened to my post?!

Did I put it in the wrong thread?:areyoucra



*wonder's who will find it... and what they will do with it...*

 

[dawny0826]

It's an exercise of faith and certainly not something that a Christian has to do. Where there are nutjobs that over do it and put on shows...there are genuine people out there who consider speaking in tongues to be an exercise of faith...helping them feel more connected with God.

It's scary to yield your tongue to the spirit because you're fearful that you'll look and sound like an idiot. The entire purpose is letting go of all of that and trusting in God.

I've only spoken in tongues on a few occasions (in the privacy of my home) during prayer. These were very personal and spiritual experiences.

 

[Benoni]

The Bible is divine when it comes to the spiritual Word not the letter that killeth. The Qu,ran is just another holy book.

The Bible has spiritual patterns like numbers, other religious books just have numbers.

Twelve speaks of Divine Government; a few examples; 12 Tribes, 12 Disciples, 12 Gates of Jerusalem,

144 (12x12=144) 12 is the perfect number, representing Devine perfection in the government in the kingdom of God



Muslims will speak of Bible codes but these codes can work in a comic book But spiritual numbers show us a divine pattern from genesis to revelation.

1 Corin 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come.

God speaks thought His Word in many hidden and ways the below verse speaks of parable; but I will also add spiritual or scriptural numbers, mysteries (Gk) Sacred secrets, used 27 times in NT) patterns, types, different languages, even deceptions to hide His word from the religious, the , wise, the carnal; and reveal it to babes. A babe is not the same as someone who can handle the milk of the word, anyone can handle milk; but a babe is like my small grandchildren when I speak to them; they trust everything I say, they have ears to hear.

I will add I always love the symbolism of the manchild in Revelation; man/masculine speaks of spirit, as well as mature because a man is a full grown mature person; but this man has that child perception; which most people lose as they grow and mature,

Matthew 13 :13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; 15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.' 16 "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;

Today, in the car, on the way home from school (while I was driving of course), my Mom started speaking in tongues.
Now, I know it mentions tongues in the Bible, but I don't know that much about it.
But what my Mom was saying sounded like an actuall language.

Lately I have been studying Islam and Christianity closely, because I can't make a decision on which holds the truth.
Things in both religions make sense to me, it's extremely stressful.
There's no way I can decifer the validity of the two.
On one hand, the Bible was there before the Qur'an, I was raised as a Christian, and I like the idea of Jesus and what he did.
On the other hand, the Bible changed a lot, the Qur'an has never changed.
Apparently original Christians thought of Jesus as just a prophet, and the old and new testament are supposed to be perversions of that original message.
So, my strategy has been to read the Qur'an and the Bible, and talk to people of both faiths, and see what makes most sense outside of the concept of Jesus, and make my decision that way.

ANYWAYS, my point is...

I don't know of any mention in Islam about speaking in tongues.
If I could write down what my Mom said, and could randomly find a translation of it, or have someone intrepret it, and I actually found something, I would be even more confused.

What do muslims think about speaking in tongues?

 

[Misty]

It's an exercise of faith and certainly not something that a Christian has to do. Where there are nutjobs that over do it and put on shows...there are genuine people out there who consider speaking in tongues to be an exercise of faith...helping them feel more connected with God.

It's scary to yield your tongue to the spirit because you're fearful that you'll look and sound like an idiot. The entire purpose is letting go of all of that and trusting in God.

I've only spoken in tongues on a few occasions (in the privacy of my home) during prayer. These were very personal and spiritual experiences.

You certainly shouldn't trust any so called 'spirit' to control your mind, but should always try to be in control of it yourself!

 

[Arav]

but should always try to be in control of it yourself!

But the sad thing is, barely anyone can do this Misty.

 

[Muffled]

Yes, but what about the earlier ones? The ones we don't have?

Does looking for a pig in the poke have any validity?

 

[Muffled]

Per my understanding glossolalia, "speaking in tongues", has been a part of human mysticism and channeling long before the advent of the church.

Glossolalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, practically every world religion has some form of meditative incantation. Although not all recognize these acts as a valid form of worship within the confines of orthodoxy, many adherents will still perform such exploits for many different reasons. Including certain Muslim sects.

I suppose it would be possible in Sufiism where spirituality is more commonly practiced.

 

[Muffled]

I have a short video on speaking in tongues which may be helpful in understanding why tongues, prophecy and knowledge have ceased. The video is called Speaking In Tongues Part A and it is on YouTube under my user name of christianissues.

God bless,
Mick

Obviously God didn't get your memo that tongues ceased to exist.

 

[Muffled]

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What makes you say that we don't have much in the concept of spritual things? This is common misconception #487 that Islam is a religion based only on very strict rules that don't have much to do with spirituality. This is definately not true. Behind the rules are vast concepts of spiritual enlightenment, that all muslims should attain to as much as possible.

I have read the Qu'ran and did not find it spiritually enlightening. Perhaps you could be so kind as to present an example or two on behlf of the author of the OP.

As far as I can remember the Qu'ran says nothing about tongues. It does mention the Spirit in reference to Jesus.

 

[Twig pentagram]

I don't think speaking in tongues means speaking in some holy language only known to the super natural. I think speaking in tongues is another way of saying someone is speaking in a language different from the one that is spoken by most of the people of that area.

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

Hello passenger

Im glad you're searching about the truth passenger , now regarding the speaking in tongues thing, then no theres no such thing in Islam Inshallah.

However, you may find some muslim walking in the street moving his lips with words you dont understand. This is called Dhikr ( rememberance of Allah) and the guy is either saying Astaghfirullah (Oh Allah forgive me) , or Allahu Akbar ( Glory is to Allah ) or Alhamdulillah ( praise be to ALlah ) , or Allahuma salli 'ala Muhammad ( Peace be upion the prophet Muhammad ) ; or reciting Quran and so forth. i.e No sensless words, only words described by the prophet peace be upon him to make people closer to Allah.

And Allah knows best.

Btw, I highly recommend you to read the Quran if you havent already done that, and to listen to its recitation in Arabic on Youtube.

Best regards
Fatima Zahrae

 

[logician]

I've been in services where people wre supposedly speaking in "tongues". None of it is divinely inspired, people just work themselves into an emotional state. These types of "services" are NOT supported Biblically, as speaking in tongues in the bible just meant the evangelism to different cultures that spoke different languages, not some heavenly jargon.

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

I have read the Qu'ran and did not find it spiritually enlightening. Perhaps you could be so kind as to present an example or two on behlf of the author of the OP.

Maybe you can define a bit whats spirituality is for you and mention some examples from Bible so we can see if there are any forms of it in Quran or not?

 

[Reptillian]

Hractul, shama lama lama laaa. Fraztar tumul visil kra. Doshtavil mookar sindle voo. Moktare vensta chirir vaasta mool. Heck, forget speaking in tounges, I can type in tounges.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Hractul, shama lama lama laaa. Fraztar tumul visil kra. Doshtavil mookar sindle voo. Moktare vensta chirir vaasta mool. Heck, forget speaking in tounges, I can type in tounges.

Please watch your language! This is a family website.

I can't believe some of these words aren't in the profanity filter. It's pretty mookar ridiculous if you ask me.

 

[MurphtheSurf]

Today, in the car, on the way home from school (while I was driving of course), my Mom started speaking in tongues.
Now, I know it mentions tongues in the Bible, but I don't know that much about it.
But what my Mom was saying sounded like an actuall language.

Lately I have been studying Islam and Christianity closely, because I can't make a decision on which holds the truth.
Things in both religions make sense to me, it's extremely stressful.
There's no way I can decifer the validity of the two.
On one hand, the Bible was there before the Qur'an, I was raised as a Christian, and I like the idea of Jesus and what he did.
On the other hand, the Bible changed a lot, the Qur'an has never changed.
Apparently original Christians thought of Jesus as just a prophet, and the old and new testament are supposed to be perversions of that original message.
So, my strategy has been to read the Qur'an and the Bible, and talk to people of both faiths, and see what makes most sense outside of the concept of Jesus, and make my decision that way.

ANYWAYS, my point is...

I don't know of any mention in Islam about speaking in tongues.
If I could write down what my Mom said, and could randomly find a translation of it, or have someone intrepret it, and I actually found something, I would be even more confused.

What do muslims think about speaking in tongues?

Anybody that does more than just glance at a few passages fom the Bible should know that "speaking in tongues" is nothing more than having the ability to speak in any of the many foriegn languages that people worldwide speak.
The incoherent babbling that is called "speaking in tongues" is either an act, or the utterances of demons.

 

[Misty]

anybody that does more than just glance at a few passages fom the bible should know that "speaking in tongues" is nothing more than having the ability to speak in any of the many foriegn languages that people worldwide speak.
The incoherent babbling that is called "speaking in tongues" is either an act, or the utterances of demons.

Yeh right!