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Spontaneous generation

idav

Being
Premium Member
Whatever happened to spontaneous generation? Back before science got a good handle on things we used to let meat set out and find maggots coming from nowhere!! Sure science can now explain why but are there any other examples of creatures just spawning from the ground that I should be aware of? I can see evidence, just by looking at nature, that evolution is real. Everything is evidence for evolution, all species procreate and come from a cause as in their parent(s). Anyone find any evidence for spontaneous generation?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Whatever happened to spontaneous generation? Back before science got a good handle on things we used to let meat set out and find maggots coming from nowhere!! Sure science can now explain why but are there any other examples of creatures just spawning from the ground that I should be aware of? I can see evidence, just by looking at nature, that evolution is real. Everything is evidence for evolution, all species procreate and come from a cause as in their parent(s). Anyone find any evidence for spontaneous generation?



As do I, but that doesn't mean that I refute creation.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
As do I, but that doesn't mean that I refute creation.
Right, because me not seeing some living organism come from non-living matter doesn't mean it can't happen. Kinda like the cause and effect argument we only see living organisms coming from other living organisms. At some point it didn't have a living cause? Any evidence of this? It is great that creation doesn't have any evidence against it but I'm more interested in evidence for it or for spontaneous generation as the OP implies.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Yes, I am sorry, I realized as I pushed the "post" button that I was a tad off topic.
 

I-Ching

Aspiring to Transcendence
No. Not one little shred of evidence. For abiogenesis, lots of evidence.
There are billions of pieces of evidence for biogenesis. For abiogenesis what is there a little a bit acid? No one living entity has every been observed emerging form matter either naturally or artificially.
 

Krok

Active Member
For abiogenesis what is there a little a bit acid? No one living entity has every been observed emerging form matter either naturally or artificially.
No, we've got evidence in the form of fossils. Lots and lots of them.
In the lowest and oldest rocks, there's no evidence of life. A little higher up in rocks that are a little younger, there's evidence of organic material, but no cells. A little higher up and in even younger rocks, there's fossils of prokaryotic cells.
 

otokage007

Well-Known Member
Whatever happened to spontaneous generation? Back before science got a good handle on things we used to let meat set out and find maggots coming from nowhere!! Sure science can now explain why but are there any other examples of creatures just spawning from the ground that I should be aware of? I can see evidence, just by looking at nature, that evolution is real. Everything is evidence for evolution, all species procreate and come from a cause as in their parent(s). Anyone find any evidence for spontaneous generation?

Well, most scientific theories that try to explain the Origin of Life have something to do with spontaneous generation, in the sense that life was born from lifeless matter.
 

Otherright

Otherright
Whatever happened to spontaneous generation? Back before science got a good handle on things we used to let meat set out and find maggots coming from nowhere!! Sure science can now explain why but are there any other examples of creatures just spawning from the ground that I should be aware of? I can see evidence, just by looking at nature, that evolution is real. Everything is evidence for evolution, all species procreate and come from a cause as in their parent(s). Anyone find any evidence for spontaneous generation?

Yeah, frogs come from mud was the classic one. When I saw the thread titled spontaneous generation, I actually said that under my breath.

A perfect example of why you should, in some cases, be skeptical of observation, even modern observations.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
This post was spontaneously generated.

The sequence of the symbols, you call letters, are in no special order. It is simply chemistry and mechanical processes.

Here's the cool part.

You're reading and (pretending to have) understanding of this post is spontaneous degeneration.

Cause really this is a poem, but you made it into prose.
Killing the buzz.
Of the artist.
Inside of you.

Apology accepted.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Well, most scientific theories that try to explain the Origin of Life have something to do with spontaneous generation, in the sense that life was born from lifeless matter.


thats better then the primitive alternitive. A sky daddy said "poof" there it is.


fact is we have a clear factual fossil record that shows the bible is wrong in how life came to be.


its time to let go of primitive mans past and move foward as a culture and realize ancient mans writings for what they are.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Well, most scientific theories that try to explain the Origin of Life have something to do with spontaneous generation, in the sense that life was born from lifeless matter.
The key difference is that science doesn't propose that living things spontaneously popped out of nowhere. The slow development of life from naturally forming molecules as the result of basic chemistry isn't spontaneous.... and it certainly wasn't anything complex being formed at once.

wa:do
 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
Whatever happened to spontaneous generation? Back before science got a good handle on things we used to let meat set out and find maggots coming from nowhere!! Sure science can now explain why but are there any other examples of creatures just spawning from the ground that I should be aware of? I can see evidence, just by looking at nature, that evolution is real. Everything is evidence for evolution, all species procreate and come from a cause as in their parent(s). Anyone find any evidence for spontaneous generation?

idav,
Can you truely say that you are a scrutator. a factfinder of the things you believe about evolution, or have you accepted the theory because many educators say that people who don't believe evolution are ignorant and unlearned???
The truth is; there is no such thing as evolution and there never has been!!!
Any time a scientist has said he has come up with a missing link, or a hopeful monster, there has been an Improbation soon after. There has been much Improbity in the ranks of Pseudoscientist, because if they can find something that seems to prove any part of evolution, it causes a sensation in the non-believing world, and can mean much notoriety, not to mention money for the claimer.
As for Spontaneous Generation. Another name for this false concept is Abiogenesis, which almost NO scientists believes has ever happened.
The Bible says that God is the source of life, Ps 36:9. Second is something that must be taken into account: The chasm between the most complex nonliving matter and the simplest living cell is impossible to cross. There is a huge chasm between man and the simplest cell, but the chasm between the most complex nonliving matter and the simplest living thing is greater. What this actually means is: It is more likely for an amoeba in a petri dish to instantly become a full grown man, than for a crystal to instantly become a man.
Another little problem is Homoplasy, which begs the question: How in the world did two individual things evolve in parallel until they were mature enough to use their reproductive organs. These totally ignorant of the other evolved a male and the other a female reproductive organ, and of course the other organs that went with them. This of course is accepting the almost impossible circumstance of finding each other after this wonderous evolution.
Another little problem is: Scientists know that all living things ONLY reproduce after their own kinds. This LAW OF NATURE, which Science calls PRESTABILISM, is mentioned several times in Genesis chapter one, Gen 1:21,24,25. Notice verse 26, which says that God was going to make man in His likeness. Do you think that any form of lower life is in the likeness of GOD ALMIGHTY??
One reason for the belief in evolution is because of the difference there can be between animals of the same KIND. You can interbreed dogs and you can get many different sizes, colors, BUT they are still d canines. The same for all KINDS, the changes within a kind is called ONTOGENESIS, ONTOGENETIC, and has nothing to do with evolving into a HIGHER KIND.
Another problem is called Differentia, which means that all Kinds are different and can be differentiated, wheter fossils or modern. There has never been found, even though there are millions of fossils, that had parts of two different Kinds so that they could not be differentiated. After so many fossils being found this should have been a common occurrance, BUT NONE HAVE BEEN FOUND.
If you would ponder, ruminate, or meditate on these things, you surely must be a little confused about evolution.
People should recognize that Evolution is a religion, and it takes much more Blind Faith than true religion does, because true science does not differ with true religion at all. The real problem is Evolution is Idolatry. Scientists have made the comment; The only alternative to Evolution is Creation, and to us that is unthinkable!!! Rom 1:18-20, Rev 4:11, Ps 146:3,4.
 

Yeshe Dawa

Lotus Born
No, we've got evidence in the form of fossils. Lots and lots of them.
In the lowest and oldest rocks, there's no evidence of life. A little higher up in rocks that are a little younger, there's evidence of organic material, but no cells. A little higher up and in even younger rocks, there's fossils of prokaryotic cells.

Hi Krok!

This is something I was not aware of. Thanks for bringing it up! Do you have a link or reference? I would like to read more about it.

Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
:flower2:
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
People should recognize that Evolution is a religion, and it takes much more Blind Faith than true religion does, because true science does not differ with true religion at all.

You realize that biological facts support Evolution?
 
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