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Spontaneous generation

idav

Being
Premium Member
The key difference is that science doesn't propose that living things spontaneously popped out of nowhere. The slow development of life from naturally forming molecules as the result of basic chemistry isn't spontaneous.... and it certainly wasn't anything complex being formed at once.

wa:do
This is an important distinction regarding creationism. From what I hear from some creationists is that somewhere there are animals that just came about fully formed. Where as the more modern "creationist" would say that god used a gradual process which is more like saying it evolved. In that sense a modern "creationist" is simply an evolutionist with god being the hand that guides it.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Yeah, frogs come from mud was the classic one. When I saw the thread titled spontaneous generation, I actually said that under my breath.

A perfect example of why you should, in some cases, be skeptical of observation, even modern observations.
Observations can certainly be decieving which is why we keep digging.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Hi Krok!

This is something I was not aware of. Thanks for bringing it up! Do you have a link or reference? I would like to read more about it.

Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
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Micropalentologists certainly have their work cut out for them. Certainly not easy and very time consuming. I don't have much on info though but here is a link with a little about it.

Fossil Record of the Archaea
 

Yeshe Dawa

Lotus Born
Micropalentologists certainly have their work cut out for them. Certainly not easy and very time consuming. I don't have much on info though but here is a link with a little about it.

Fossil Record of the Archaea

Hi Idav!

Thank you for the link - it was quite interesting. I didn't realize we had evidence for organisms that used something other than a lipid bilayer membrane. Thanks again!

Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
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McBell

Unbound
idav,
Can you truely say that you are a scrutator. a factfinder of the things you believe about evolution, or have you accepted the theory because many educators say that people who don't believe evolution are ignorant and unlearned???
The truth is; there is no such thing as evolution and there never has been!!!
Any time a scientist has said he has come up with a missing link, or a hopeful monster, there has been an Improbation soon after. There has been much Improbity in the ranks of Pseudoscientist, because if they can find something that seems to prove any part of evolution, it causes a sensation in the non-believing world, and can mean much notoriety, not to mention money for the claimer.
As for Spontaneous Generation. Another name for this false concept is Abiogenesis, which almost NO scientists believes has ever happened.
The Bible says that God is the source of life, Ps 36:9. Second is something that must be taken into account: The chasm between the most complex nonliving matter and the simplest living cell is impossible to cross. There is a huge chasm between man and the simplest cell, but the chasm between the most complex nonliving matter and the simplest living thing is greater. What this actually means is: It is more likely for an amoeba in a petri dish to instantly become a full grown man, than for a crystal to instantly become a man.
Another little problem is Homoplasy, which begs the question: How in the world did two individual things evolve in parallel until they were mature enough to use their reproductive organs. These totally ignorant of the other evolved a male and the other a female reproductive organ, and of course the other organs that went with them. This of course is accepting the almost impossible circumstance of finding each other after this wonderous evolution.
Another little problem is: Scientists know that all living things ONLY reproduce after their own kinds. This LAW OF NATURE, which Science calls PRESTABILISM, is mentioned several times in Genesis chapter one, Gen 1:21,24,25. Notice verse 26, which says that God was going to make man in His likeness. Do you think that any form of lower life is in the likeness of GOD ALMIGHTY??
One reason for the belief in evolution is because of the difference there can be between animals of the same KIND. You can interbreed dogs and you can get many different sizes, colors, BUT they are still d canines. The same for all KINDS, the changes within a kind is called ONTOGENESIS, ONTOGENETIC, and has nothing to do with evolving into a HIGHER KIND.
Another problem is called Differentia, which means that all Kinds are different and can be differentiated, wheter fossils or modern. There has never been found, even though there are millions of fossils, that had parts of two different Kinds so that they could not be differentiated. After so many fossils being found this should have been a common occurrance, BUT NONE HAVE BEEN FOUND.
If you would ponder, ruminate, or meditate on these things, you surely must be a little confused about evolution.
People should recognize that Evolution is a religion, and it takes much more Blind Faith than true religion does, because true science does not differ with true religion at all. The real problem is Evolution is Idolatry. Scientists have made the comment; The only alternative to Evolution is Creation, and to us that is unthinkable!!! Rom 1:18-20, Rev 4:11, Ps 146:3,4.
Wow.
I am honestly impressed.
Never have I seen so much proud willful ignorance packed into such a small space!
 
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