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Starving Gazans to death - is that also not genocide?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
When the mainstream media refuses to cover a story, sometimes you have to rely on you tube videos.
With big yellow propaganda letters and big yellow propaganda circles and big yellow propaganda arrows with lots and lots of exclamation points coupled with the obligatory begging to like, subscribe, ring the stupid bell blah blah blah. And now listen to me shilling for our sponsor of the video for the next 5 minutes for their crappy product or service, in addition to all the unskippable ads that I've shoved into it.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
YouTube is just a medium for posting videos. It is not the source itself. There's millions of news, documentary, historical, political and social commentary, etc. videos on there. The Jimmy Dore Show is the source, and it's a political and social commentary show. I watch his show at times and you disagree with his take on things, but he does show the sources of everything he's talking about and has prominent guests discussing topics, etc. I'm just saying there's no reason to dismiss YouTube out of hand.

As an aside, I think people on this board need to get used to people posting videos to discuss issues, as that's increasingly the norm of how people digest the news - from social media and video sites. The youth especially are using TikTok to get their news. Might as well get with the times.
The youth especially are using TikTok to get their news.

Yes, that is the problem. Their interest is getting me to watch videos which support my opinion. Though this is also true of most news sources. No need to question my own opinion with all of this support.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And it reflects a reprehensible disregard for civilian life on the part of the Israeli regime and those who support it.
That is raised to the level of genocide by Israel seeking
places to deport Gaza residents, & intent by many to
move Jewish Israelis into Gaza, thereby expanding Israel.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The problem with YouTube is they provide videos which cater to a person's individual political ideology.
Maybe this link helps.
Telegram, thousands of crimes videos of Israel, babies are in pieces.
It's very serious matter, people there are die, by this killing machine regime.

 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Does anyone believe that Trump will continue to send aid to Gaza, as Biden has been doing? The criminal president will cut aid to many people in need all over the world in his efforts to isolate America. But he will surely give Israel the weapons to finish off Gaza, and then what happens to the rest of those citizens? Starvation is a passive "final solution" to the palastinian problem.

Europe will pull back any aid with the fear that Trump will help putin defeat Ukraine. Gaza will be on its own for the most part. The UN will be neutered. NATO will be neutered. The fight for democracy in many nations will fail as fear takes over the minds of citizens. Militarism will increase. And diplomacy will fail as aliances are created with bad actors, like Trump and putin. Instability. War.
 

MayPeaceBeUpOnYou

Active Member
This a letter send to Israel government by the US because the lack of aid getting in and even gives them a ultimatum.

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For the people who can’t read the letter here is the full text.






Dear Ministers,

Secretary Blinken’s 19 April letter to Minister Gallant emphasised that, in accordance with US law and policy, including National Security Memorandum 20 (NSM-70), the Departments of State and Defense must continually assess your government’s adherence to the March 2024 assurances that Israel would “facilitate and not arbitrarily deny, restrict, or otherwise impede, directly or indirectly, the transport or delivery of United States humanitarian assistance and US government-supported international efforts to provide humanitarian assistance” to and within Gaza. The Department of State will need to conduct a similar assessment under section 620l of the Foreign Assistance Act in order to provide additional Foreign Military Financing assistance to Israel. We are now writing to underscore the US government’s deep concern over the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Gaza and seek urgent and sustained actions by your government this month to reverse this trajectory.

The humanitarian situation for over two million civilians in Gaza is increasingly dire. Despite the July transition from combat operations to Special Counterterrorism Operations in the Gaza Strip, multiple evacuation orders have forced 1.7 million people into a narrow coastal zone from Mawasi to Deir al Balah. Extreme overcrowding has put these civilians at high risk of lethal contagion. Humanitarian implementers report they are unable to meet the essential survival needs of aid-dependent civilians. Trucks carrying humanitarian commodities, including perishable goods funded by the United States, are delayed at crossing platforms.

We are particularly concerned that recent actions by the Israeli government — including halting commercial imports, denying or impeding nearly 90% of humanitarian movements between northern and southern Gaza in September, continuing burdensome and excessive dual-use restrictions, and instituting new vetting and onerous liability and customs requirements for humanitarian staff and shipments — together with increased lawlessness and looting, are contributing to an accelerated deterioration in Gaza’s conditions.

Since Israel’s assurances in March and the April letter, which produced important improvements in the provision of humanitarian assistance, the amount of aid delivered has dropped by more than 50%. The assistance entering Gaza in September was the lowest of any month during the past year. Conversely, Israel recently demonstrated what is possible and necessary to ensure civilians in Gaza receive the required assistance, as evidenced by the successful campaign to administer polio vaccines to more than 560,000 children in Gaza.


To reverse this downward humanitarian trajectory and remain consistent with its assurances, Israel must act immediately and within the next 30 days on the following concrete measures. Failure to demonstrate a sustained commitment to implementing and maintaining these measures may have implications for US policy under NSM-20 and relevant US law.

Ahead of winter, surge all forms of humanitarian assistance throughout Gaza by:

•Enabling a minimum of 350 trucks per day to enter Gaza, upholding your prior commitment to allow assistance to flow consistently through all four major crossings (Erez West, Erez East, Gate 96, and Kerem Shalom), as well as opening a new fifth crossing.

•Instituting adequate humanitarian pauses across Gaza as necessary to enable humanitarian activities, including vaccinations, deliveries, and distribution, for at least the next four months.

•Allowing people in Mawasi and the humanitarian zone to move inland before winter.

•Enhancing security for fixed humanitarian sites and movements.

•Rescinding evacuation orders when there is no operational need.

•Facilitating rapid implementation of the World Food Program winter and logistics plan to repair roads, install warehousing, and expand platforms and staging areas.

•Ensuring Israeli Coordination and Liaison (CLA) officers can communicate with humanitarian convoys at checkpoints and assign division-level liaison officers from Southern Command to the Joint Coordination Board.

•Removing restrictions on the use of container and closed trucks and increasing the number of vetted drivers to 400. •Removing an agreed list of essential items from the dual-use restricted list.

•Providing expedited clearance processing at the Port of Ashdod for Gaza-bound humanitarian assistance.

•Ensure the commercial and Jordan Armed Forces (JAF) corridors function at full and continuous capacity by:

•Waiving customs requirements on the JAF corridor until the UN is able to implement its own process.

•Allowing the JAF to enter Gaza through the northern crossings and others as agreed.

•Reinstating a minimum of 50-100 commercial trucks per day.

•End the isolation of northern Gaza by reaffirming that there will be no Israeli government policy of forced evacuation of civilians from northern to southern Gaza.

•Ensuring humanitarian organizations have continuous access to northern Gaza through northern crossings and from southern Gaza.





Relatedly, we are deeply concerned about the potential adoption of Knesset legislation that could remove certain privileges and immunities from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) and its staff, prohibit official contact with UNRWA, and alter the status quo regarding UNRWA in Jerusalem. While we share your concerns about the serious allegations of certain UNRWA employees participating in the October 7 terrorist attacks and the misuse of UNRWA facilities by Hamas, enacting such restrictions would devastate the Gaza humanitarian response at this critical moment and deny vital educational and social services to tens of thousands of Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. This could have implications under relevant US law and policy.

We urge you to take all possible steps, whether with lawmakers or through the authorities of the Prime Minister’s Office, to prevent this from happening. Additionally, we ask that you provide UNRWA with further information regarding these allegations as we continue to urge UNRWA to implement reforms ensuring confidence in its personnel.

The April letter stressed the critical importance of Israel’s strong commitment to meeting its international law obligations in operations against Hamas, including allowing the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) access to individuals detained in connection with the conflict and re-engaging in dialogue with the ICRC immediately. Reports of abuses against detainees have further heightened the urgency for Israel to take these steps.

Lastly, it is crucial that our governments establish a new channel to raise and discuss incidents of civilian harm. Our previous engagements have not achieved the necessary outcomes. We request the initial virtual meeting for this channel to be held by the end of October.

Again, we request your urgent intervention and leadership in addressing this situation.

Sincerely,

Antony J. Blinken Secretary of State Lloyd J. Austin III Secretary of Defence
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
The limiting factor is the behavior of Hamas.
I've been of the opinion to build a huge trebuchet and to just lob it over the fence.



Anyway, a year and a month in and ~45 people have starved to death in Gaza.

In Sudan since April 2023, well over a thousand.

Oh well, eyes on Gaza boys and girls!
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I've been of the opinion to build a huge trebuchet and to just lob it over the fence.



Anyway, a year and a month in and ~45 people have starved to death in Gaza.

In Sudan since April 2023, well over a thousand.

Oh well, eyes on Gaza boys and girls!
So you accept Israeli propaganda as a valid source of information?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So you accept Israeli propaganda as a valid source of information?
They don't kill anyone , it's all AI crimes invented, they are angels ,we are big liars .
I believe after end of this war, the world realise what was Hamas fighting for their people and all humanity .
Please check and share this telegram link about crime of Israel
 
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