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State of the Gaming Industry 2015

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
State of the Gaming Industry 2015:


Wonder if my fellow gamers agree....

Nothing feels better now like a frank and swearing like a sailor assessment by someone who gives the State of the Gaming address that is completely spot on and truer to the core with a long hard look at how far we've come and how hard we've fallen.


This is the first time I have ever. in my gaming existence refrained from purchasing a next gen console. Since the release of Xbox 1 and PlayStation 4, I have not regretted one minute my decision to hold on to my money in light of two major things that are going on right now.

First the sheer lack of triple a titles and second, when they are released, the pathetic state they are in which is half finished stripped down works with a cash grab built in just about if not every single one of them in guise of dlc.

This is not how it used to be and every modicum of the vid is eerily in sync with my feelings over a hobby I dearly love since the Atari 2600 and beyond.

Eventually when the prices drop enough to make it worthwhile I might go ahead and get a next gen when at least three or four games are finally worth the purchase by way of the bargain bin.

I sadly got Destiny for my 360 as well as GTA 5 and Watchmen which firmly sealed my decision to wait things out and let all the other poor fools waste their money away for something definitely not worth the price. I'm just not excited about getting games anymore at full price. No way.

To major reasons imo are insane greedy***publishers and ourselves the consumer.

Yes. I blame myself for buying broken and or unfinished stripped down ****.

Special sympathies for those who lately bought Evolved.

The bright side are the Indie and arcade devs who from the simple days when gaming started, are capturing the magic that made gaming so wonderful and special from the days of old by delivering a quality experience for a fraction of the price.

Ea, Bungie, Square Enix, Deep Silver and other major publishers and developers I once respected, if you keep doing this to your customers, you can simply go to hell. We need some creative new blood that really cares about the gamer and not milking every dollar out of the people responsible for your sucuess and some indie and arcade game devs are doing just that.

Same for us the gamer. Stop buying the **** upfront if you want this greedy *** bs to stop and just wait until it goes down enough so that it's worth the hard earned money you pluck down.

I certainly am.

The only good aaa game now that's worth it's full price for next gen imo is Dying light atm. Sad isn't it?






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xkatz

Well-Known Member
As someone whose used a friend's XboxOne extensively, I can personally say I am disappointed in the quality of the experience. I have encountered all sorts of difficulties- from games constantly freezing, to multi-day download times, to online not working, to games or even the system itself not starting up. I would definitely not put my own money down for the XboxOne. XboxOne only seems to continue the trend of graphics and gimmicks over making unique game design. Also avoiding EA like the plague should be common-sense, I haven't touched any of their games since Spore in 2008. IMHO Nintendo and PC* are the most consistent in terms of actual game and console quality.

*Especially a lot of whats coming out from indies
 
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dust1n

Zindīq
Hmm. I'm not sure what the price complaint is for the ps4. It costs 371$ to manufacture, and they are selling at $400 starting price. This is actually quite impressive considering the ps3 was $600 retail and they cost $500 to manufacture.
Even Microsoft switched to this plan, with the XP one. You are basically paying at price for hardware, and they you are going to pay far too much for games.

I have GTAV for PS3, and it's fine, but it definitely has advantages on the PS4, and runs smoother.

The only reason I didn't buy the PS4, is because it's not backwards compatible, while later runs of production are suppose to be. I doubt this might actually happen, so I'm thinking about switching back to PC gaming, and using the funds for a nice computer that can handle the graphics.

But I don't think the price of these new generation consoles are really that ridiculous. But that doesn't really change the fact that I can't afford it.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I do not play these systems (though we do have a Wii), but one thing we all should thank the gaming industry (and those gamers who spent their money on such systems and thus "financing" future development in IT) is the HPC (High Performance Computing) CUDA driven GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) revolution where the arithmetic and calculations based on "transcendental math" are sent directly to GPUs with CUDA ready chips that are clustered in enclosures instead of sent to the CPU of the server, this entire process front ended with Linux OS clusters on CUDA smart hardware such as coming from Tesla and Dell ... and a HUGE kudo to NVIDA which set off this revolution.

Soon cloud based service apps will be leveraging GPUs in your "TV", your car, your watch on so on ... 1,000 times faster than you standard server still CPU top heavy, and all this was possible because OF THE GAMING INDUSTRY and the gamers who paid the dollars that drove the hardware and dynamics that made this possible.

Your world is about to change. Thanks to "gamers".

Every great leap ... starts with "toys".
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The state of gaming 2015: Worse than it was in 2005, which was worse than it was in '95, in which gaming has never been as good as it was during the mid 90s to early 00s. Games have gotten way too easy, there is way too much hand-holding, the only real challenge is just sitting through a game long enough to finish it (rather than figuring it out and developing the skills and timing to beat it), voice acting is typically just as bad or worse than anime English dubs, game developers today are starting to top Nintendo from 30 years ago in how bad their policies are, and the console hardware anymore is junk. The are no more challenging games like Ninja Gaiden, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or Battle Toads, and no more stellar story-lines from games like Chrono Cross/Trigger, Final Fantasy up to IX, or Vandal Hearts, and there are no more games that are a ton of fun to play like Sonic. Unfortunately I don't see gaming getting as good as it was when the SNES, Genesis, and PS1 were the current consoles.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I played one of the Assassin's Creed games at a friends house, and I was bored that all I had to do was very little more than just push the thumb stick forward, occasionally make a correction, and sometimes push the jump button. How games like this got to be so popular I do not know. It was so much more enjoyable with games like Castlevania where you had to carefully time a series of jumps, moving back in forth in mid-air, dodging enemies, reaching other platforms, and having to start back at level 1 if you messed up too many times instead of always at a check-point.
I am impressed though the cost of a new game really hasn't went up that much over the years. Even way back on the NES new games were 50-60 bucks, so in that regard the state of gaming has remained rather static.
 
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Jumi

Well-Known Member
I play a game with a bunch of DLCs. It's damn annoying and even though I bought most DLCs on sale, I've payed maybe 60$ for one game. Although the game is good, next time I see a DLC-trap I'll buy only when it's a finished game and on sale with all DLCs.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I play a game with a bunch of DLCs. It's damn annoying and even though I bought most DLCs on sale, I've payed maybe 60$ for one game. Although the game is good, next time I see a DLC-trap I'll buy only when it's a finished game and on sale with all DLCs.
DLC is a major part of why the cost of new games has stayed around 60 bucks. Go back about ten years and instead of DLC we had expansion packs, which never doubled the games content but still nearly always cost about the same as the base game. By around 04/05 the cost of a new game would have been about 90-100 dollars if it wasn't for DLC pulling in extra money to keep the price of a game low.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
100-120$ for a full expansion game was reasonable. I agree with DLC it's a good business move, sometimes tripling the price of the old style expansions.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I'm very happy with my WiiU, the only next-gen console I was willing to buy (or would have; mine was a Christmas present). Because Earthbound. ^_^

I also discovered the hardcore awesomeness that is Monster Hunter on it (specifically 3 Ultimate). I also discovered many great classics like Harvest Moon through its virtual console, and some interesting indie games that I'll be picking up at some point.

However, the WiiU is but a shadow of what it could be, and of what Nintendo has put out in the past. For one thing, notice something about the list above? All the games I listed are either ports, remakes, or indie games; not one WiiU exclusive has interested me long enough to remember that I want it(I actually have ZombiU, and have had it for over a year now; I've not played it once... also Smash Bros. WiiU, while great, only half-counts by being half on the 3DS). For others, while I greatly admire Satoru Iwata and other Nintendo execs for cutting their own paychecks in lieu of negative profit and refusing to lay off their employees, I also recognize that they seriously need to get their rears in gear and accept Youtube as something that exists and isn't a threat. Heck, it's Monster Hunter's only hope of being anything more than a small cult-favorite in the States.

As for the others, I couldn't possibly care less about the Xbone, and the PS4... okay, the PS4 is going to have Persona 5 on it. I'm sold on that alone. ...eventually.

Overall, I'm happy with my PC and playing old classics I've either never heard of or only just now got around to playing.
 
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