Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes. Those struggling for freedom against them should probably be the ones to decide what help they need, sans foriegn countries invading and taking over.
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Stop Funding Terrorists!
- Thread starter Rival
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Well I'm confused.
I see the Taliban struggling against freedom of the populace.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
They are. I think we can both agree the Taliban can bugger off.
Isn't the issue how to possibly steer them towards greater liberty?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The Trumpistas are probably a bit confused. Trump started the withdrawal. He should get credit for that. The problem is that no one foresaw Afghanistan falling so quickly. Biden was merely following through on one of the few right things that Trump did. A week before Afghanistan fell Trump was trying to take credit for it, and again he was mostly right. But as soon as it went pear shaped he tried to blame Biden for what was essentially his policy.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Fair point. My continuing failures dealing with humans mostly seem to arise from expecting other people to generally behave in a reasonable and consistent manner. 40 years of experience to the contrary, but still I keep making that error.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I don't think they will.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Good point. Maybe we should just let the terrorists get even more powerful and let a future generation deal with it when they go out of control on jihad to muslumify the world.
It would be worthwhile for other countries
to consider possibilities....other than war.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
At the tune of 2500 Americans killed and $2-3 trillion spent.
The biggest mistake, imo, was trying to occupy a country that had never been successfully occupied before. We had the right to go after al-Queda and binLaden, no doubt, but one would have hoped that we had learned our lesson with our long and painful experience when we tried to dominate in Vietnam. We didn't.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That's quite a nonsensical statement.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's not a goal of the Taliban.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I think the Afghans themselves will probably have to overthrow the Taliban to bring forth necessary changes.
The thing is many don't even seem to want to.
Could be.
Suave
Simulated character
Islamification of the U.S. isn't going to happen under my watch. I can easily debunk the 4th pillar of Islam.
The fourth pillar of Islam, Ramadan fasting, can't be equally followed and adhered to by everybody in the world.
Ramadan fasting rules, as written on behalf of Muhammad in the Quran, requires dawn to dusk fasting for all healthy Islamic followers worldwide during the month of Ramadan. The dawn to dusk fasting rules as written in the Quran does not apply equally to all persons in all regions. This law can't be applied equally to all regions of the world. The period of sunrise to sunset varies according to the latitude of where a person lives. Therefore, equal periods of day and night don't exist for everybody. Consequently, Ramadan sunrise to sunset fasting can't possibly be followed equally by all healthy Muslims. The length of time required for sunrise to sunset fasting during Ramadan is based solely on a person's geographical location. I think it doesn't make any sense and it's unfair that the amount of Ramadan sunrise to sunset fasting time required for each Muslim is different based solely on the latitude of where the Muslim lives. Because the southern most inhabitants experience very short days during summer month of Ramadan, and they would only be required to fast for a few hours a day. The northern most inhabitants experience daylight throughout the month of Ramadan, and they would die from starvation while fasting for a whole month without food and drink. Nowhere in the Quran is it written that people of the polar regions can break their fast at the time of sunset until sunrise of the country next to them. This law was added later in Islam in order to correct a stupid mistake made, as written on behalf of Muhammad, for the dawn to dusk fasting law during Ramadan.
My non-Muslim pen is mightier than any Muslim's sword.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think it is their ultimate goal.
Suave
Simulated character
If pamphlets of my refutation of Islam's 4th pillar ( see post #97) were dropped on a massive scale over Afghanistan by dozens of drones, many Afghan people would stop practicing Islam; consequently, the Taliban regime would quickly collapse.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I have to agree. The way the government left and abandoned their arms tells me it was an invitation to the Taliban to come right on in, if not a red carpet layed out outright to happily welcome them to take power.