Stop the terrorist cars

[tytlyf]

This is a 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun.

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This is the 25 round magazine you can buy for it.

Good. Let's see if that becomes the weapon of choice. Doubt it though.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, if I couldn't find a gun I would improvise. Well duh. How many suicides by gun every year? Why make killing easier in a 1st world country? America is slowly leaving the developed world.

The NRA is responsible because they are the ones writing laws that don't require background checks. The NRA is responsible because they are the ones writing laws against mental illness checks.
The NRA is one of the largest lobbying groups in the country. Spending millions of dollars to keep guns flowing to everyone. Anything that impedes that goal is eliminated. It's not hard to understand the capitalistic mindset behind their motives.

Oh and BTW, no one is talking about removing the 2A. So ignore anyone telling you that.

Yep, I am sure that you noticed that the countries where cars are used for terrorism are also countries where it is hard for civilians to get guns. In the U.S. that is not as big of a problem. We are
"safer" from car terrorism here.

 

[Father Heathen]

If we're going to compare guns to cars, take into consideration that cars have to meet certain criteria to be street legal, along with traffic laws to dictate how to drive, and that you have to take and pass a test and obtain a driver's license. For example, you can't just hop into an 'F1' race car and take it top speed down an oncoming lane. Do you take a look at the speed limit and think to yourself "Damn liberals comin' after our cars!"?

 

[Kapalika]

Is this made up?

Probably; abortion doesn't count towards death toll and I think the murder rate for guns is a bit higher than that and I don't see death tolls for car accidents in there.

Bad analogy. US is more like a country that had allowed citizens the unrestricted right to own and drive tanks in the streets, and when faced with unhinged people blasting people with those said tanks, is saying that the only solution that will stop bad civilian with a tank is a good civilian with a tank.

1. That isn't a Tank. It's an armored car:

Alvis Saladin - Wikipedia

2. You *can* legally own a tank in the USA and some other countries, you just need road safe treads, in all other ways make it road legal and to disable(remove?) the weapon systems.

Very few people do it as it's hell expensive.

The Ins And Outs Of Owning A Tank In One Infographic

Cool!!

I love shotguns. I really like the style of that and always wanted a magazine loading shotgun.

Pretty cool lookin' gun.

Let's see 25 rounds, wonder how it would work on the 16yrd line?

The short barrel would make it harder but considering with an 870 I've hit cans dead on at 30 yards it isn't out of the question with the right ammo. That's the best part about shotguns; variety of ammo.

Though worth noting to all the anti gun people... the recoil is huge with shotguns. So ya, fire rate isn't really high if you want to hit more than the ground. In my experience it took me about 2 seconds to recover from recoil and about another second or more to aim and shoot again, and that's going "fast"

 

[England my lionheart]

Why do so many terrorists use cars as a weapon for their attacks | Metro News

Between cars being used to murder civilians and cars being used as bombs, we need to ban cars to protect ourselves.

What about people who drive cars who arent terrorist although in a car i know too many psople who are a terror on the roadr

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Why do so many terrorists use cars as a weapon for their attacks | Metro News

Between cars being used to murder civilians and cars being used as bombs, we need to ban cars to protect ourselves.

Are you trying to draw a parallel between cars and guns?

Think very hard about how heavily cats and driver’s are regulated before you go down that road.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If we're going to compare guns to cars, take into consideration that cars have to meet certain criteria to be street legal, along with traffic laws to dictate how to drive, and that you have to take and pass a test and obtain a driver's license. For example, you can't just hop into an 'F1' race car and take it top speed down an oncoming lane. Do you take a look at the speed limit and think to yourself "Damn liberals comin' after our cars!"?

You also sure as heck can’t take your car into a school, church, or mall.

 

[Kapalika]

Are you trying to draw a parallel between cars and guns?

Think very hard about how heavily cats and driver’s are regulated before you go down that road.

Hey now, let's leave cats out of this. You can't regulate those free spirits!

 

[Kapalika]

You also sure as heck can’t take your car into a school, church, or mall.

There's been a surprisingly large number of people driving cars into restaurants and stores either out of anger, to break in to rob it or just being out of their mind. Murder too.

Actually there was a pretty viral video of a guy trying to break into a guy's store by ramming the car at the front gate. They did this until he whipped out a long gun and started firing. The robbers backed off quick.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You also sure as heck can’t take your car into a school, church, or mall.

Ahem:

 

[Kapalika]

Ahem:

Jokes aside it's a real thing:

Man drives car through Russian airport terminal

UPDATE: Vehicle drives through mall

Baby among five people injured as car crashes into Sydney shop

Child among four dead after 'evil criminal act' in Melbourne

 

[Kenny]

I’ll say. There are over 30,000 gun deaths a years and over 11,000 are homicides and over 21000 are suicide.
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

Then it is running to par for 2018. Sounds like we should really be up in arms about medical error since it has already reached 30,000.

 

[tytlyf]

Then it is running to par for 2018. Sounds like we should really be up in arms about medical error since it has already reached 30,000.

Medical errors aren't murder. Twitter isn't news either.

 

[Rough Beast Sloucher]

The short barrel would make it harder but considering with an 870 I've hit cans dead on at 30 yards it isn't out of the question with the right ammo. That's the best part about shotguns; variety of ammo.

Though worth noting to all the anti gun people... the recoil is huge with shotguns. So ya, fire rate isn't really high if you want to hit more than the ground. In my experience it took me about 2 seconds to recover from recoil and about another second or more to aim and shoot again, and that's going "fast"

The picture I presented appears to have too short of a barrel to be legal (18.5" minimum). It might be the Russian military model. BTW the action is Kalashnikov style. Here are the types being sold in the US.

The upper picture has a compensator which would reduce recoil a little an reduce muzzle rise..A full 25 round magazine would weigh 6 or 7 pounds. Of course that weight would drop as firing continued. But after all we are talking about 12 gauge so recoil is a big factor.

 

[esmith]

If we're going to compare guns to cars, take into consideration that cars have to meet certain criteria to be street legal, along with traffic laws to dictate how to drive, and that you have to take and pass a test and obtain a driver's license. For example, you can't just hop into an 'F1' race car and take it top speed down an oncoming lane. Do you take a look at the speed limit and think to yourself "Damn liberals comin' after our cars!"?

Question; how man automobile accidents were caused by a person who had drivers training and obtained a license?
Care to answer that bub?
All firearms legally manufactured for sale to the general public are "street legal".
How about that bub?

 

[tytlyf]

Question; how man automobile accidents were caused by a person who had drivers training and obtained a license?
Care to answer that bub?

The majority of them.

All firearms legally manufactured for sale to the general public are "street legal".
How about that bub?

The people who wrote those laws are the problem. Lobbied by the NRA to make sure as many people as possible can spend money on guns.

 

[metis]

The OP obscures one very simple and basic fact, namely that cars were designed to transport and guns were designed to kill. "Intent" is important here as any judge would tell us.

If we could get rid of cars and still transport, then the OP would make more sense.

 

[metis]

Lobbied by the NRA to make sure as many people as possible can spend money on guns.

Which is why I consider the NRA to be a quasi-terrorist organization that is probably a greater threat to our country that foreign terrorism. Any state that becomes an armed camp is setting itself up for what could be a major internal conflict, heaven forbid. With averaging roughly 300,000,000 guns here, almost one gun per every man, woman, and child, the possibilities of what could happen can be nightmarish.

But what also is so utterly disturbing about the NRA and those whom they pay off is that they have opposed almost all sensible legislation to make guns safer, instead opting to actually make sure that they are even more dangerous. Endorsing plastic guns and assault-style weapons; refusing to raise the minimum age for ownership of the latter; refusing to limit the size of magazines; etc. Instead of taking actions that help protect Americans, they've done the opposite.

My own father used to be a proud member of the NRA until he went to a gun show down in the Miami area, and when he saw the kinds of guns they were selling, how quickly they could be approved, and some of the people whom were buying them, he took his NRA card, cut it into little pieces, mailed it back to the NRA, and told them where they could put it-- literally.

 

[Kapalika]

The OP obscures one very simple and basic fact, namely that cars were designed to transport and guns were designed to kill. "Intent" is important here as any judge would tell us.

If we could get rid of cars and still transport, then the OP would make more sense.

So what do we get designed to blow things up to replace guns?

 

[esmith]

Which is why I consider the NRA to be a quasi-terrorist organization that is probably a greater threat to our country that foreign terrorism. Any state that becomes an armed camp is setting itself up for what could be a major internal conflict, heaven forbid. With averaging roughly 300,000,000 guns here, almost one gun per every man, woman, and child, the possibilities of what could happen can be nightmarish.

But what also is so utterly disturbing about the NRA and those whom they pay off is that they have opposed almost all sensible legislation to make guns safer, instead opting to actually make sure that they are even more dangerous. Endorsing plastic guns and assault-style weapons; refusing to raise the minimum age for ownership of the latter; refusing to limit the size of magazines; etc. Instead of taking actions that help protect Americans, they've done the opposite.

My own father used to be a proud member of the NRA until he went to a gun show down in the Miami area, and when he saw the kinds of guns they were selling, how quickly they could be approved, and some of the people whom were buying them, he took his NRA card, cut it into little pieces, mailed it back to the NRA, and told them where they could put it-- literally.

You know I would probably put you on ignore, but you do provide me with an inordinate amount of illogical humor.