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String Theory Co-Founder: Sub-Atomic Particles Are Evidence the Universe Was Created

Zosimus

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Okay, I've read the links that were provided in the OP, and the other news articles and blog posts that mention this...some date back to early 2015, but I can find no links to any scientific papers or other works (primarily looking through Google Scholar...which is what my university library now uses...) that actually describe this supposed work by Kaku. There are no article submissions in which he lays out his evidence for public/peer review. Using various combinations of the terms primitive, tachyon, and semi-radius, as well as his name, all I see are articles such as the ones in the OP, and little else--that is, popular press and blogs.

The sources that I do find keep pointing out that both tachyons and string theory are currently theoretical with little or no accepted evidence that they are actually real...although that doesn't stop theoretical physicists from developing models using them...in the hopes that one day, eventually, verifiable evidence will be discovered, and then someone will get the Nobel in physics and/or other accolades for having "foreseen" the correct theory...

In physics, the term primitive might mean simple, or it might mean a building block, or it might be something that existed early, then changed into something else, or that only exists at very high temperatures and pressures.
The term tachyon refers to particles that can travel faster than the speed of light--these are hypothesized but have not been detected.
The term semi-radius is anyone's guess; semi mean partial, and radius refers to the distance between the center and edge of a particle or other object, such as a black hole.
What exactly the combination of terms refers to is unknown, until someone finds an actual paper that describes this...
This is the original source for the claims. It comes with a video of Kaku (5:34) explaining his point of view.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
This is the original source for the claims. It comes with a video of Kaku (5:34) explaining his point of view.
Yes, I read the linked article, and also much of the rest of the website. That is not a physics website, it is a site about humanistic philosophy and anthropology. The story claims that Kaku has solved a problem in physics. The linked article does not link to any paper or other academic work explaining this claim of physics. It is very difficult to evaluate a claim if all you have to work with is, essentially, a press release and a video of a person talking.

According to its "about us" page:

"WHO WE ARE
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AGEAC (Geophilosophical Association of Anthropological and Cultural Studies) is a humanistic, philosophical and anthropological institution whose raison d'être is to investigate the cultural values immersed in the traditions, folklore, mythology, philosophy, art, customs and beliefs of all peoples of antiquity with the aim of extracting from them the principles and values that allow the modern man to live in a more conscious and intelligent way.

AGEAC was founded in Spain in 1989 and it is nowadays an international institution with presence in more than 40 countries of the five continents, it is comprised by people from a wide range of professional activities, all interested in investigating and bringing to the present the great universal teachings of the past.

AGEAC does not pursue lucrative aims so that all people, regardless of their social or economic level, can benefit from its courses and investigations.

Although AGEAC studies, among many other aspects of the human culture, the different religions that have existed in the world, our institution is not any religion. AGEAC respects the individual beliefs of its affiliates, and to its courses attend people of different faiths and philosophies.

In order to give an adequate fulfilment to its functions and objectives, AGEAC periodically carries out various activities, amongst which are the following:

  1. To edit works that include all the inherent themes to integral development of the human being and universal knowledge.
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Since the foundations of our institution rest upon the respect for the free will of people, all the activities held by the members of AGEAC are always voluntary.

AGEAC as a cultural institution present in a large number of countries has developed various international events since its establishment, namely:

  • International Congress celebrated in the city of Vienna (Austria) in 1990.
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We conclude affirming solemnly and in honour of the truth that AGEAC has one single purpose: to investigate and share with our fellow man, with seriousness and scientific rigor, the universal wisdom of all times; that knowledge which allows the modern man to make a more human, more conscious, and consequently, more transcendent vision of his existence."
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Dr. Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist at the City College of New York (CUNY) and co-founder of String Field Theory, says theoretical particles known as “primitive semi-radius tachyons” are physical evidence that the universe was created by a higher intelligence.

After analyzing the behavior of these sub-atomic particles - which can move faster than the speed of light and have the ability to “unstick” space and matter – using technology created in 2005, Kaku concluded that the universe is a “Matrix” governed by laws and principles that could only have been designed by an intelligent being.

“I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence. Believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore,” Kaku said, according to an article published in the Geophilosophical Association of Anthropological and Cultural Studies.

“To me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”

“The final solution resolution could be that God is a mathematician,” Kaku, author of The Future of the Mind: The Scientific Quest to Understand, Enhance, and Empower the Mind, said in a 2013 Big Think video posted on YouTube.

“The mind of God, we believe, is cosmic music, the music of strings resonating through 11-dimensional hyperspace.”

String Theory “revolutionized” mathematics and physics by demonstrating a “super symmetry” in the universe. Kaku said it also explains gaps in the Big Bang theory.

“First of all, the Big Bang wasn’t very big. Second of all, there was no bang. Third, Big Bang Theory doesn’t tell you what banged, when it banged, how it banged. It just said it did bang. So the Big Bang theory in some sense is a total misnomer,” the well-known physicist said in 2015.

“We need a theory that goes before the Big Bang, and that’s String Theory. String Theory says that perhaps two universes collided to create our universe, or maybe our universe is butted from another universe leaving an umbilical cord….

“Some people believe that maybe, just maybe, we have detected evidence of that umbilical cord.”

http://www.scienceworldreport.com/a...cientist-michio-kaku-proves-existence-god.htm

Your Thoughts?
Pluto used to be a planet too.

Moral...

Michio Kaku is a brilliant man with a flair for words.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
This is the original source for the claims. It comes with a video of Kaku (5:34) explaining his point of view.
Except that isn't providing anything except for one video clip that provides no proof of god, does not state proof of god has been found, and it does not give us anything to suggest Kaku is referencing anything other than Spinoza's god, especially when you take into account his other interviews and things he has written. Like the video clip with him comparing god to music - he didn't mean music is god but rather he was using god more in a poetic sense than meaning a god that is a personal deity.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
And as I mentioned, even Richard Dawkins has said you probably could find evidence of a creator, but ...
I would be interested in seeing an actual quote. That aside (and depending on how one employs the term 'evidence') saying that "you probably could find evidence of a creator is in no way equivalent to asserting that “To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I would be interested in seeing an actual quote. That aside (and depending on how one employs the term 'evidence') saying that "you probably could find evidence of a creator is in no way equivalent to asserting that “To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”
"...we exists..." Unintended humor. :) Sure hope that is a typo made by the writer of the OP.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
It's pretty clear that you either didn't read the article or didn't understand it.
People arguing the big bang didn't have a beginning or the universe didn't have a beginning really doesn't put a dent in the big bang theory. Feel free to correct my statement.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I would be interested in seeing an actual quote. That aside (and depending on how one employs the term 'evidence') saying that "you probably could find evidence of a creator is in no way equivalent to asserting that “To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”
Not sure "universal intelligence" would mean a personal type creator.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Not sure "universal intelligence" would mean a personal type creator.
Yup. We know Einstein talked about god, and said that god doesn't play with dice (which matches Kaku's statement regarding chance), but Einstein did not believe in any sort of personal deity. Kaku, especially considering his admiration of Einstein and following a similar path, seems to be referring to god in much the same way, that is, not a god like Jehovah or Zeus, but rather the intricate laws of physics.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I would be interested in seeing an actual quote. That aside (and depending on how one employs the term 'evidence') saying that "you probably could find evidence of a creator is in no way equivalent to asserting that
It's more in that the quote has been taken out of context by many Creationists to make their position seem more scientific. Even Einstein is frequently misquoted by theists to try to make their religious beliefs more scientific.
I would be interested in seeing an actual quote. That aside (and depending on how one employs the term 'evidence') saying that "you probably could find evidence of a creator is in no way equivalent to asserting that “To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”
This to seems to be taken out of context, because Kaku uses the term god much in the same way Einstein did, and in the Big Think video referenced in the article Kaku does not state he has proof of god. But rather, in another video, he states god is like waves of music traveling through the universe.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
@Shadow Wolf, this is becoming tiresome. You've said on more than one occasion: "Even Richard Dawkins said he supposes you could find evidence of a 'creator/designer, ...'" So, once again, can you offer a source? And can you at least pretend to address the other point made in post #45?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So, once again, can you offer a source?
Here is the exact quote:
I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

It's from Expelled, and it does seem to be frequently twisted and taken out of context (it seems he was hinting at aliens).
I've also been addressing your point on post 45 by pointing out Kaku's admiration of Einstein, Einstein's use of the term god, and how the article provided by Dante Writer includes mentioning that Kaku may be referring to Spinoza's god, which is most likely exactly what he was talking about when you consider the other ways he has used the term god, such as when he said that "the universe is a symphony of strings, and the mind of God that Einstein eloquently wrote about for thirty years would be cosmic music resonating through eleven-dimensional hyper space." Now, if you notice, here he does specifically refer to the "god that Einstein wrote about." Obviously that was not a personal deity
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
As with all these 'God created...' arguments, I will ask the standard question.

Who created this god??
 

Zosimus

Active Member
People arguing the big bang didn't have a beginning or the universe didn't have a beginning really doesn't put a dent in the big bang theory. Feel free to correct my statement.
I have only to quote from the link I provided you with:

The singularity comes out of the math of Einstein's theory of general relativity, which describes how mass warps space-time, and another equation (called Raychaudhuri's equation) that predicts whether the trajectory of something will converge or diverge over time. Going backward in time, according to these equations, all matter in the universe was once in a single point — the Big Bang singularity.

But that's not quite true. In Einstein's formulation, the laws of physics actually break before the singularity is reached. But scientists extrapolate backward as if the physics equations still hold, said Robert Brandenberger, a theoretical cosmologist at McGill University in Montreal, who was not involved in the study.

So even if you think that Einstein's relativity is right (I don't) and even if you think that Raychaudhuri's equations are right (I have no opinion), you still cannot extrapolate a Big Bang from that. The Big Bang theory is a Christian concept that the universe began when God said "let there be light" that has been dressed up to look like physics.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
So even if you think that Einstein's relativity is right (I don't)
Thats rich, all experiments to this day, one hundred years later still prove Einstein is right.

The Big Bang theory is a Christian concept that the universe began when God said "let there be light" that has been dressed up to look like physics.
Big bang has nothing to do with the bible. It has to do with the facts on the expansion of space, among many many other facts we know about the universe.
The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the universe from the earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale evolution.[1][2][3]The model accounts for the fact that the universe expanded from a very high density and high temperature state,[4][5] and offers a comprehensive explanation for a broad range of phenomena, including the abundance of light elements, the cosmic microwave background, large scale structure and Hubble's Law.[6] If the known laws of physics are extrapolated beyond where they have been verified, there is a singularity. Some estimates place this moment at approximately 13.8billion years ago, which is thus considered the age of the universe.[7] After the initial expansion, the universe cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles, and later simple atoms. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The fact there are no apparant peer reviewed material should be telling as things stand as they are.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Here is the exact quote:
I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

It's from Expelled, and it does seem to be frequently twisted and taken out of context (it seems he was hinting at aliens).
Thanks.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The fact there are no apparant peer reviewed material should be telling as things stand as they are.
The thing is Kaku has never claimed to have evidence or proof of god, and what the article states he said he said some time ago. It's definitely a prime example of the media taking what a scientist or study says way out of context and stretching it beyond what was intended or implied.
 
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