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Study indicates babies born during pandemic have a lower IQ
- Thread starter an anarchist
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I'm highly skeptical of measuring IQ of babies.
Reminds me of...
Study: Dolphins Not So Intelligent On Land
Reminds me of...
Study: Dolphins Not So Intelligent On Land
We Never Know
No Slack
I do believe without providing the link your information comes from is called plagerizing.
Can Parents Determine If Their Child Is Gifted as an Infant?.
Altfish
Veteran Member
By its own definition ... "...political news website that provides breaking news and analysis unfiltered by the liberal bias that has eroded the media’s credibility. " It doesn't sound very reliable
Perhaps because they do often correlate with much else? This is worth a look:
What Do IQ Tests Test?: Interview with Psychologist W. Joel Schneider - Scientific American Blog Network
halbhh
The wonder and awe of "all things".
Well, ignore that then if you prefer, but notice this instead:
COVID-19 linked to 'significant' drop in intelligence: research
(Source study: Lancet article: Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from COVID-19)
It's seeming that Covid might be doing some brain damage to many that get a significant infection. It might be the effects included permanent losses. Fortunately, only some are in the worst categories of this, but it's still quite important because even the less worse categories of loss aren't trivial.
Altfish
Veteran Member
It may be correct ... but I'm very sceptical of intelligence tests on 1 and 2 year olds.- let's see in 5 years time
halbhh
The wonder and awe of "all things".
Well, I'd hope an infant or toddler might recover entirely, as their brains are still very actively forming/reforming, and so might compensate quite well (fully) if some damage happens that isn't too much.
ecco
Veteran Member
It's not my belief. It's the accepted knowledge of experts in the field. I am not the one ignorant of the facts. You choose to do no research and to dismiss the research that I and others have brought to your attention.
Exactly! You don't care about the logic of the argument you are presenting.
You don't care that you are arguing that babies IQs can be tested when a quick search (like the one I quoted from) will show that babies' IQ cannot be tested much before age 1 1/2 (toddlers - not babies).
ecco
Veteran Member
I definitely should have provided a link.
The information came from Googling "Can infants have IQ tested": At what age can you test a child's IQ? While you can test a child's IQ as early as 2 years and 6 months of age, the results may not be accurate and may in fact change with age. The best time to test IQ in children is between ages 5 and 8.
ecco
Veteran Member
Did nobody, especially @halbhh, notice that these two posts are talking about two entirely different things?
One is talking about babies born during the pandemic having lower IQs, the other is talking about some of the effects "long-haulers" are experiencing.
The former is unsubstantiated nonsense.
The latter is a well know, scientific fact.
ecco
Veteran Member
Why are you referring to infants recovering when the article you posted is talking about long term effects in adults? Did you bother actually reading the Lancet article? Did you understand it?
Findings
People who had recovered from COVID-19, including those no longer reporting symptoms, exhibited significant cognitive deficits versus controls when controlling for age, gender, education level, income, racial-ethnic group, pre-existing medical disorders, tiredness, depression and anxiety. The deficits were of substantial effect size for people who had been hospitalised (N = 192), but also for non-hospitalised cases who had biological confirmation of COVID-19 infection (N = 326). Analysing markers of premorbid intelligence did not support these differences being present prior to infection. Finer grained analysis of performance across sub-tests supported the hypothesis that COVID-19 has a multi-domain impact on human cognition.
People who had recovered from COVID-19, including those no longer reporting symptoms, exhibited significant cognitive deficits versus controls when controlling for age, gender, education level, income, racial-ethnic group, pre-existing medical disorders, tiredness, depression and anxiety. The deficits were of substantial effect size for people who had been hospitalised (N = 192), but also for non-hospitalised cases who had biological confirmation of COVID-19 infection (N = 326). Analysing markers of premorbid intelligence did not support these differences being present prior to infection. Finer grained analysis of performance across sub-tests supported the hypothesis that COVID-19 has a multi-domain impact on human cognition.
halbhh
The wonder and awe of "all things".
As I worded it, "ignore that then if you prefer, but notice this instead:"
Since he found X not credible, he could simply leave X behind (not bother with it any further), and instead consider something worth looking at that was different, entirely different question Y. As you said, they are "two entirely different things".
