Suggestions for a new Satanist?

[1137]

I warned you, Kerriscott. Hahaha.

I definitely am not a fan of Nazi roleplaying but I understand the point. Honestly it doesn't make much sense to me as racism is pretty common and Judaism is pretty small. To each their own though.

 

[1137]

I am reminded by the whole Satan vs Lucifer debate. If you are a Luciferian in my view you are a Satanist as you are still being adversarial to the norms of ignorance. I am not fond of the whole label thing because I love paganism, Arabic/Islamic philosophy and Satanism. I have a 3 way love affair it seems . I will reconcile my mistresses and see what I become one day

I missed this before. The paradoxical problem with Satan is that everyone is an adversary. It's so Christianized that most seem to ignore the much more interesting Jewish roots. Satan did not play the part of heterodoxy or going against the status quo, nor was he the enemy of God. It was simply the title of an angel acting as an adversary to man. Man, not god. A Christian is satanic (adversarial) to a Self proclaimed Satanist, so when you look at it in the factual, historical, "objective" (, Luciferian) light then Satanism is pretty much as simple as it seems.

 

[kerriscott]

Keep your ONA crap to that other thread and don't derail this one.

Excuse me? Someone - i.e. you - made some assumptions about the O9A on this thread, and I replied here, on this thread, in respect of the assumptions made, asking you to clarify certain matters.

So, are you saying that no one can or should respond - in the same thread - whenever someone in some thread mentions the O9A or comments about the O9A or makes assumptions about the O9A? Wouldn't this in effect mean that people, like yourself, are free to criticize the O9A whenever and however they like, but people are not allowed to responded to that criticism of the O9A in the same thread?

We get you types every so often

Perhaps you could explain what 'type' you think I am?

 

[blutausnord666]

So Ive been re-reading TSB over the past few days. Its been many years since I read it. While Levay makes a lot of good points, I kind of feel very little of what he discusses has barely anything to do with Satanism. He briefly talks about Satan being this "dark force of nature" but never goes into any detail as to why he thinks that. He also says that he chose to associate his philosophy with the term Satanism simply because humans need guidelines to follow in their lives, so he calls it satanism. I dont mean to offend anyone who follows Levays version of Satanism, but it seems so...childish. Ive almost finished the book and realized that most of the pages are describing what he thinks Satanism isnt, rather than what it actually is! Also, what the hell does psychic vampires have to do with Satanism?

Maybe its because my idea of Satanism is very different, but Im starting to think Levay was nothing more than a showman who used Satan to draw attention to himself. Again, I hope that doesnt offend anyone, but am I making sense here?

 

[1137]

So Ive been re-reading TSB over the past few days. Its been many years since I read it. While Levay makes a lot of good points, I kind of feel very little of what he discusses has barely anything to do with Satanism. He briefly talks about Satan being this "dark force of nature" but never goes into any detail as to why he thinks that. He also says that he chose to associate his philosophy with the term Satanism simply because humans need guidelines to follow in their lives, so he calls it satanism. I dont mean to offend anyone who follows Levays version of Satanism, but it seems so...childish. Ive almost finished the book and realized that most of the pages are describing what he thinks Satanism isnt, rather than what it actually is! Also, what the hell does psychic vampires have to do with Satanism?

Maybe its because my idea of Satanism is very different, but Im starting to think Levay was nothing more than a showman who used Satan to draw attention to himself. Again, I hope that doesnt offend anyone, but am I making sense here?

I agree. What's worse is LaVey seems to stay with some people. Even after they try becoming more spiritual types of Satanists that anger and aggression remain.

Psychic vampirism is actually interesting. Ironically, LaVey took far more than he put out, and what he put out he did for himself. He himself is a "psychic vampire".

 

[blutausnord666]

I agree. What's worse is LaVey seems to stay with some people. Even after they try becoming more spiritual types of Satanists that anger and aggression remain.

Psychic vampirism is actually interesting. Ironically, LaVey took far more than he put out, and what he put out he did for himself. He himself is a "psychic vampire".

Thats funny, I never really thought of it that way. He kind of did become a psychic vampire!

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So Ive been re-reading TSB over the past few days. Its been many years since I read it. While Levay makes a lot of good points, I kind of feel very little of what he discusses has barely anything to do with Satanism. He briefly talks about Satan being this "dark force of nature" but never goes into any detail as to why he thinks that. He also says that he chose to associate his philosophy with the term Satanism simply because humans need guidelines to follow in their lives, so he calls it satanism. I dont mean to offend anyone who follows Levays version of Satanism, but it seems so...childish. Ive almost finished the book and realized that most of the pages are describing what he thinks Satanism isnt, rather than what it actually is! Also, what the hell does psychic vampires have to do with Satanism?

Maybe its because my idea of Satanism is very different, but Im starting to think Levay was nothing more than a showman who used Satan to draw attention to himself. Again, I hope that doesnt offend anyone, but am I making sense here?

Many of us have already came to the same conclusion about LaVey. It was all for show and to make money.

 

[1137]

Thats funny, I never really thought of it that way. He kind of did become a psychic vampire!

Haha yeah, there's a lot of irony around LaVey. Forget psychic vampirism, how about the people who will talk down about LaVey then act as if they fit perfectly within the paradigm? To me LaVeyan Satanism is less a religion / philosophy and more about the mindset - otherwise it's just glorified atheism. Sadly the mindset is generally similar to "angsty teen", but I've seem exceptions.