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Suicide

wolly

New Member
I wanted to drown but I asked myself If I would go to hell and be tormented every day for this sin.Our religion teacher told us that hell is not real and it's neither a place of torment and this is all fantasy.I asked myself what would it happen if you killed yourself because you were unsatisfied with this life and you wanted another one.I mean if you suffered from panic attacks,stress and anxiety won't you get a second chance?
I went to an electrician camp where I thought I would learn something good.That never happened,instead what I received was fear,stress and panic attacks that controlled me like a puppet.I tried my best to discover and to understand new things but after all the hatred I got from my teammates I realised that there is no need for me there and all I have to do is to obey their commands.My teammates had no intelligence and I had to explain to these idiots how to draw a rectangle or a square and they didn't understand.All I had to accomplish is to watch and not touch anything.I thought to myself that this is not what I want to do in life so I started asking questions if God exists and if He exists why does he allow lies,deceivers and so on.I don't feel like I have a free will if my parents tell me what I have to do.That is not fair.
They forced me in this camp and I never intended to participate in that place.What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
With rare exception, suicide is a truly dumb idea.

George Santayana — 'That life is worth living is the most necessary of assumptions, and were it not assumed, the most impossible of conclusions.'

Living well is a skill. Figure out how to play the hand you were dealt.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
With rare exception, suicide is a truly dumb idea.

George Santayana — 'That life is worth living is the most necessary of assumptions, and were it not assumed, the most impossible of conclusions.'

Living well is a skill. Figure out how to play the hand you were dealt.


...and all any of us have is the now.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?
Having already died once, and being signed off as suicidal myself; it doesn't get any easier on the other side, Hell below here is full of bullies, with nasty attitude issues...

At least here we get sunshine, and there are ways to cope in this world. :earthamericas::blacksunrays:

So with panic attacks, i've found weight training seems to help, as it can make us feel more solid in our self...

The healthy diet that is required, makes us get more of the base minerals that help with mental balance; like zinc, iron, magnesium, etc.

Plus more endorphins and hormones make us generally in a more up beat state of mind.:walking:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I wanted to drown but I asked myself If I would go to hell and be tormented every day for this sin.Our religion teacher told us that hell is not real and it's neither a place of torment and this is all fantasy.I asked myself what would it happen if you killed yourself because you were unsatisfied with this life and you wanted another one.I mean if you suffered from panic attacks,stress and anxiety won't you get a second chance?
I went to an electrician camp where I thought I would learn something good.That never happened,instead what I received was fear,stress and panic attacks that controlled me like a puppet.I tried my best to discover and to understand new things but after all the hatred I got from my teammates I realised that there is no need for me there and all I have to do is to obey their commands.My teammates had no intelligence and I had to explain to these idiots how to draw a rectangle or a square and they didn't understand.All I had to accomplish is to watch and not touch anything.I thought to myself that this is not what I want to do in life so I started asking questions if God exists and if He exists why does he allow lies,deceivers and so on.I don't feel like I have a free will if my parents tell me what I have to do.That is not fair.
They forced me in this camp and I never intended to participate in that place.What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?

There's no guarantee you get another life. Even if you do, there's no gurantee it won't be even worse than this one.

You can do anything in this life. You just have to be willing to accept the consequences of you action. The situation may suck, but I always found it a challenge to find a way to make it better in spite of every obstacle I had to overcome.

I'd be easy to give up, but given a little time I always found a way to overcome every obstacle.

Think, be smart. Figure out how to come out on top in every situation. Yes, you'll lose many times but learn from each loss. Do better next time.

It's a game, you against the world. If you die, the world wins.
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
I wanted to drown but I asked myself If I would go to hell and be tormented every day for this sin.Our religion teacher told us that hell is not real and it's neither a place of torment and this is all fantasy.I asked myself what would it happen if you killed yourself because you were unsatisfied with this life and you wanted another one.I mean if you suffered from panic attacks,stress and anxiety won't you get a second chance?
I went to an electrician camp where I thought I would learn something good.That never happened,instead what I received was fear,stress and panic attacks that controlled me like a puppet.I tried my best to discover and to understand new things but after all the hatred I got from my teammates I realised that there is no need for me there and all I have to do is to obey their commands.My teammates had no intelligence and I had to explain to these idiots how to draw a rectangle or a square and they didn't understand.All I had to accomplish is to watch and ence and not touch anything.I thought to myself that this is not what I want to do in life so I started asking questions if God exists and if He exists why does he allow lies,deceivers and so on.I don't feel like I have a free will if my parents tell me what I have to do.That is not fair.
They forced me in this camp and I never intended to participate in that place.What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?
I had the same experience and views. Paxil was a great reliever of such torment. The more our minds deal with the system of today, the more many cannot handle it's complex nature. Life isn't as simple as it used to be. We are hammered from many different directions, and the media contributes to that.

Focusing on what surrounds you is key. Seeing what is going on in the world is not your reality. Wars, starving children in Africa, marches in DC, etc. Focus on your own here and now. There are good doctors locally that can treat anxiety attacks. Giving you a chance at clarity of mind.
 

agorman

Active Member
Premium Member
Look I'm not Christian now, it's not my path, I won't write about my opinion and my experience in Christianity, but I will tell you first my way of thinking and second, what you can do as a Christian:

In one of my previous incarnations (I think it was in 1832) my wife died of tuberculosis and I couldn't deal with it. I poisoned myself, leaving my son with my parents in law.

I never found my wife again, in any of the following incarnations. So my problem wasn't solved by killing myself. You know, I finally understood she doesn't really want to be with me. And she didn't really love me in 1832 either. So what I did was completely stupid.

Sometimes you need to take some time for clarity and to acquire more wisdom to make the right choices. You don't have a terminal disease right? So you have time... How would you want your life to be, really? We always have our destiny in our own hands. The problem is, we don't normally realize about it. But to realize about it, you've got to change your mind!

If you don't change your mind, you won't change your life. This life or your future life, if you kill yourself. People who have a terminal disease and kill themselves because of pain, only postpone their suffering to their next incarnation; when they will have that disease again and suffer the same again; because their minds didn't change. What you have in your life, is the reflection of what you have in your mind. All of the great masters like Buddha said it.

If you don't change your mind, you won't have to wait until you are in Hell to suffer; you'll suffer right here, right now! You're not burning in a lake of fire right now, but you're suffering, right?

So now, what can you do as a Christian?

Ask Jesus, repeatedly, everyday (at least repeat the same orison 3 times) for His help and the help of archangel Michael to protect you and give you bravery, courage and self-worth. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you wits, wisdom and mental clarity. Ask Jesus for the energy of forgiveness, to cancel the energy of suffering. He'll understand. Say thanks in advance. Even before you received anything from Jesus.

Now, if you don't want to call for help to any human beings or deities and want to keep suffering without doing anything about it, then please don't post again and kill yourself. Nobody can help someone who doesn't want to be helped. If you want to learn things the tough way, then so be it. Not even Jesus will stop you. But then don't complain about it when you're in the Beyond and you look back to Earth saying "Damn, I could have done so many things down there, how stupid I was!".

BTW, if you reincarnate, you'll most probably lose your memory; so you'll have to study Math again. Think about that.

Oh and stay away of antidepressants. Most people who lost control and started shootings did it because of collateral effects. Science doesn't really have a clue of the effect of antidepressants. Take magnesium, zinc, vitamins, etc. Bananas have triptofan, which is a precursor of serotonin.
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
People on this website are not qualified to give you advice on such a serious matter as your life.

Please seek the help of someone qualified to work through these issues with you.

Suicide hotline: 800-273-8255
I echo that - it's the most important step you can take.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
People on this website are not qualified to give you advice on such a serious matter as your life.

Please seek the help of someone qualified to work through these issues with you.

Suicide hotline: 800-273-8255

I second this...I'm a social worker (well in less than two months at least) but I do not have the credentials to designate myself to where I can help you individually. I really need you to get off this website and seek help clinically if need be call 911
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
For the record, I would encourage everyone else responding to simply point this person to professionals. This website is not built for this and although I commend people sharing their experiences, sometimes what you've overcome is not the same as this person. Anyone needing emergent care does not need to read "how I overcame my struggles" stories. they need immediate help. We don't know if this person is off meds or is having a psychotic break or whatever.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I am waiting for answers.
The answer like others before advised is to get help. Talk to somebody professional.

Personally death isn't going to do much for you. Remember what it was like before you were born, you said you didn't have a choice living this existence? I doubt that will change much.

Personally I would think you would feel better if you can navigate this way without having to go through the whole life death cycle over and over again.
 

Geoff-Allen

Resident megalomaniac
What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?

I can relate to where you are coming from.

It's ONLY natural to want your suffering to end and feel happy.

I personally don't believe in Hell as a place of eternal torture.

You may need more "help" than you are likely to receive from this forum. It can help to talk to someone like a therapist if you are having serious thoughts about suicide.

Where there is life there is hope - I used to be in a very dark place but managed to emerge from it. So you never know what life has in store for you.

Anyways, I sincerely wish you all the best and hope you can find some peace of mind and joy even if that seems like an impossible dream for you right now!

Religious views on suicide - Wikipedia
 

corynski

Reality First!
Premium Member
I wanted to drown but I asked myself If I would go to hell and be tormented every day for this sin.Our religion teacher told us that hell is not real and it's neither a place of torment and this is all fantasy.I asked myself what would it happen if you killed yourself because you were unsatisfied with this life and you wanted another one.I mean if you suffered from panic attacks,stress and anxiety won't you get a second chance?
I went to an electrician camp where I thought I would learn something good.That never happened,instead what I received was fear,stress and panic attacks that controlled me like a puppet.I tried my best to discover and to understand new things but after all the hatred I got from my teammates I realised that there is no need for me there and all I have to do is to obey their commands.My teammates had no intelligence and I had to explain to these idiots how to draw a rectangle or a square and they didn't understand.All I had to accomplish is to watch and not touch anything.I thought to myself that this is not what I want to do in life so I started asking questions if God exists and if He exists why does he allow lies,deceivers and so on.I don't feel like I have a free will if my parents tell me what I have to do.That is not fair.
They forced me in this camp and I never intended to participate in that place.What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?
 

corynski

Reality First!
Premium Member
No, I don't think that's much of a reason to commit suicide, better that you learn from the incident. It's a longshot that any of the religious stuff is true, not good enough to bet on, again, I think it's better to try to learn from this incident. Learn about your parents and about your friends. One thing you can count on is that everyone will have an opinion about how to 'solve' your problem. Ask yourself first 'what is it I want that seems reasonable and a better solution', and don't worry about other opinions. You are unique.... a unique human with talents you have yet to discover. Give your mind permission to explore for a solution other that suicide, you can always do that later.....
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What should I do?
1-800-273-8255
Or if you'd rather chat online:
Lifeline Chat
Or if you'd rather text, text CONNECT to 741741. While it's important to talk to someone--anyone who can positively support you--an online forum is just not ideal for such discussions. You need someone you can talk to, now, not latter when they respond. You should also seek professional psychological help, for your stress, fears, and panic attacks and not just suicidal thoughts.
 

Jesster

Friendly skeptic
Premium Member
I've been suicidal a lot before. I still get passing thoughts about it every day, although I have the tools to deal with it now. I can't give you these tools, and I doubt anyone else on this site can either. Take the advice about calling for more official help that others here have offered you. It's what I've done as well, and I'd still recommend it. Hotlines and doctors are trained for this.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I wanted to drown but I asked myself If I would go to hell and be tormented every day for this sin.Our religion teacher told us that hell is not real and it's neither a place of torment and this is all fantasy.I asked myself what would it happen if you killed yourself because you were unsatisfied with this life and you wanted another one.I mean if you suffered from panic attacks,stress and anxiety won't you get a second chance?
I went to an electrician camp where I thought I would learn something good.That never happened,instead what I received was fear,stress and panic attacks that controlled me like a puppet.I tried my best to discover and to understand new things but after all the hatred I got from my teammates I realised that there is no need for me there and all I have to do is to obey their commands.My teammates had no intelligence and I had to explain to these idiots how to draw a rectangle or a square and they didn't understand.All I had to accomplish is to watch and not touch anything.I thought to myself that this is not what I want to do in life so I started asking questions if God exists and if He exists why does he allow lies,deceivers and so on.I don't feel like I have a free will if my parents tell me what I have to do.That is not fair.
They forced me in this camp and I never intended to participate in that place.What should I do?Should I take my own life and live and be tortured in hell?
I think that what I have heard from people who tried to kill themselves and did not succeed is that they were really grateful they did not die. I remember this from a long time ago so it is very foggy in my mind.

I would never recommend suicide as a way out. There is a reason we are here, to prepare for the afterlife, so if we cut our time short, we will not be prepared. I was really depressed a long time ago, back on the 1980s , and I got help. At first, I was on antidepressants, but after about five years those were not really helping much if at all, so I went to a homeopathic doctor. That changed my life. It took about a month till I could get off the antidepressants but I was never really depressed again after that and I just kept getting better for about 10 years. I also went to counseling and 12 step programs for a long time.

But much later, I discovered I have PTSD and I had grief reactions and wanted to kill myself every time a cat died. We had so many cats. I never really got over that until I turned to God, then everything changed because i could handle the cat deaths although it is still the hardest thing I have had to endure in life, I love them so much.

I went back to school so I am a counselor and a homeopath now and I know a few things, but I know more from my personal experiences. Sometimes people need medications, sometimes they just need someone to talk to, sometimes they need both. These forums have helped me a lot over the past five years because I always have someone to talk to. But when I needed professional help, I always got it.

Life is hard, but it is worth the struggle. I have constant stress and I am dealing with some really difficult problems now, but because I got through similar situations before I know I can do it now, it just won't be easy or fun. The important thing is that you have some support from friends and/or family and you get professional help. My sister is the one who got me to go for help the first time. As I look back on those days now, it is lie a bad dream, which shows one can overcome if they just do what they need to do, get the right help.
 
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