Suppose evolution was refuted, then what?

[Matthew78]

I have participated in a number of threads on creation and evolution. One thing that I have noticed is that antievolutionists, such as rusra02, have argued that there is no evidence for evolution. So I want to ask rusra02 something: suppose evolution was completely refuted. Suppose it was totally refuted and you got what you wanted. Suppose that everyone on this forum, including myself, finally was forced to conclude that evolution was not true due to the sheer weight of scientific evidence against it. Let's suppose that the case was so overwhelming as to make it impossible to deny that evolution was false.

Then what? What would Rusra02 like to see happen? Seriously. Even if it would never likely happen, what would Rusra02 like or hope would happen? Convert to creationism? Become Christians? At least declare agnosticism? Suppose that all of this talk about "propaganda" and other such conspiracy-talk was completely true, the facts all true and verifiable, and proven true to the extent that it was impossible to deny. What then?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I would follow my father's advice and go to bed at once.

 

[Matthew78]

I would follow my father's advice and go to bed at once.

You naughty boy! You're a late owl like me .

 

[Renji]

I have participated in a number of threads on creation and evolution. One thing that I have noticed is that antievolutionists, such as rusra02, have argued that there is no evidence for evolution. So I want to ask rusra02 something: suppose evolution was completely refuted. Suppose it was totally refuted and you got what you wanted. Suppose that everyone on this forum, including myself, finally was forced to conclude that evolution was not true due to the sheer weight of scientific evidence against it. Let's suppose that the case was so overwhelming as to make it impossible to deny that evolution was false.

Then what? What would Rusra02 like to see happen? Seriously. Even if it would never likely happen, what would Rusra02 like or hope would happen? Convert to creationism? Become Christians? At least declare agnosticism? Suppose that all of this talk about "propaganda" and other such conspiracy-talk was completely true, the facts all true and verifiable, and proven true to the extent that it was impossible to deny. What then?

Hey dude, do you want a one on one debate with Rusra? There's actually a section in RF that allows that.

 

[Matthew78]

Hey dude, do you want a one on one debate with Rusra? There's actually a section in RF that allows that.

I'm not interested in a one-on-one debate with Rusra just now. I just want to know what Rusra hopes to accomplish by discrediting evolution.

 

[Reach]

A more plausible theory will be put forth over time if evolution is refuted. I do not see how this would force people to become Christians or convert to creationism. There is nothing that says you must believe in one because you do not believe in the other. Another theory would be put forth.

 

[outhouse]

A more plausible theory will be put forth over time if evolution is refuted

if evolution could be refuted it would be already. there is only one real valid explanation of life and we use it today.

Another theory would be put forth

it would be great if those who appose ToE would think about that for a minute and STOP using magic to explain the diversity of life.

The biggest problem we have is the uneducated insert god in the gaps of their knowledge, A problem that has been going on way to long

 

[Renji]

I'm not interested in a one-on-one debate with Rusra just now. I just want to know what Rusra hopes to accomplish by discrediting evolution.

Some religions teach the story of creation as something that is "historical" (or literal). Probably, Rusra belongs to that kind of denomination. If they believe that the story is actually "literal", then, there really is a tendency for them to discredit the TOE.

 

[Revoltingest]

Then what? What would Rusra02 like to see happen? Seriously. Even if it would never likely happen, what would Rusra02 like or hope would happen? Convert to creationism? Become Christians? At least declare agnosticism? Suppose that all of this talk about "propaganda" and other such conspiracy-talk was completely true, the facts all true and verifiable, and proven true to the extent that it was impossible to deny. What then?

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
But as long as there is bacon, I'll be OK.

 

[fantome profane]

If evolution were refuted there would be another theory that explains the same evidence as well or better. Because that is what it would take to refute evolution.

 

[LuisDantas]

Fantome is correct.

Then again, refuting the Theory of Evolution is only slightly more likely than refuting the existence of matter.

 

[Renji]

If evolution were refuted there would be another theory that explains the same evidence as well or better. Because that is what it would take to refute evolution.

I second to that.:yes:

 

[Valjean]

I'd be very interested in how things really came about, in that case, as there are currently no alternative explanations.

 

[Viker]

I have participated in a number of threads on creation and evolution. One thing that I have noticed is that antievolutionists, such as rusra02, have argued that there is no evidence for evolution. So I want to ask rusra02 something: suppose evolution was completely refuted. Suppose it was totally refuted and you got what you wanted. Suppose that everyone on this forum, including myself, finally was forced to conclude that evolution was not true due to the sheer weight of scientific evidence against it. Let's suppose that the case was so overwhelming as to make it impossible to deny that evolution was false.

Then what? What would Rusra02 like to see happen? Seriously. Even if it would never likely happen, what would Rusra02 like or hope would happen? Convert to creationism? Become Christians? At least declare agnosticism? Suppose that all of this talk about "propaganda" and other such conspiracy-talk was completely true, the facts all true and verifiable, and proven true to the extent that it was impossible to deny. What then?

If there's a new wave....I'll be the first in line.

But it better work this time.

 

[lunakilo]

if evolution could be refuted it would be already. there is only one real valid explanation of life and we use it today.

And how do you know that?
What is your evidence that if evolution could be refuted it would be already?

 

[lunakilo]

If evolution were refuted there would be another theory that explains the same evidence as well or better. Because that is what it would take to refute evolution.

I disagree.

All it would take to refute evolution would be a bunch of fossils in the 'wrong' layers, or something like that.

If fossils like that were found and couldn't be explained away the theory of evolution would be in trouble, but no better theory would magically spring into existence because of this.

 

[lunakilo]

I have participated in a number of threads on creation and evolution. One thing that I have noticed is that antievolutionists, such as rusra02, have argued that there is no evidence for evolution. So I want to ask rusra02 something: suppose evolution was completely refuted. Suppose it was totally refuted and you got what you wanted. Suppose that everyone on this forum, including myself, finally was forced to conclude that evolution was not true due to the sheer weight of scientific evidence against it. Let's suppose that the case was so overwhelming as to make it impossible to deny that evolution was false.

Then what? What would Rusra02 like to see happen? Seriously. Even if it would never likely happen, what would Rusra02 like or hope would happen? Convert to creationism? Become Christians? At least declare agnosticism? Suppose that all of this talk about "propaganda" and other such conspiracy-talk was completely true, the facts all true and verifiable, and proven true to the extent that it was impossible to deny. What then?

I can't really speak for Rusra02, but I think Rusra02 would be happy if this happened. After all, all the evolutionists would have to stop brainwashing people, and the world would be a better place

 

[LuisDantas]

I disagree.

All it would take to refute evolution would be a bunch of fossils in the 'wrong' layers, or something like that.

Not really. Fossils aren't even particularly important as evidence of evolution at this point in time. The evidence has mounted quite a lot along time, and assumed a great variety of forms, some of them a bit esoteric.

 

[heretic]

ideally this will raise new questions to ask to explain the origin of life.

I think the problem of evolution vs creation is reading both with an eye of a religion, which I see it wrong from both of evolutionists and creationists. Most creationists reference a religion or a scripture in their claims defending God existence based on the trustiness of the book or the religion not on a scientific study , evolutionists are very defensive in their claims and most of them just want to cancel the existence of God, I think proving creation or evolution must start regardless any religious or scriptural suppositions , and any personal preferences . proving God existence doesn't need a religion or a scripture

 

[doppelganger]

Refuted? Science doesn't work that way. Someone proposes a different model that better suits the observations and the uses to which we are putting the information and it gradually would replace the Theory of Evolution as the explanatory model for the diversity of species. As an aside, that would never be an explanatory "model" that has no basis in observation at all, like "creationism" or "intelligent design" - neither of which actually explains or models anything.

So as for "then what?," if the new model is more useful then the old model, we would go forward with the new model. And people emotionally invested in the old model would cling to it like survivors of a sinking ship cling to pieces of flotsam for a while until the tide finally carries them away.