Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Thanks, but unless there is access to the actual data used the study isn't repeatable and threfore is not actual science.
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Suppression of Free Speech on Covid
- Thread starter Kenny
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Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Due to the volume of communications, confusing statements, and the amount of distrust in the research
community, an apparent attempt by a head researcher (Mills) to communicate more openly about their trial
with researchers in favor of ivermectin ended in frustration. The press and ’fact-checkers’ widely disseminated
misleading information that conflicted with the opinion of the head researcher expressed in more informal
contexts such as a video presentation.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Can you say what the lies were, or are you just a repeater for the ignorant?
A safety study evaluating non-COVID-19 mortality risk following COVID-19 vaccination
The safety of COVID-19 vaccines plays an important role in addressing vaccine hesitancy. We conducted a large cohort study to evaluate the risk of non-COVID-19 mortality after COVID-19 vaccination while adjusting for confounders including individual-level ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"The safety of COVID-19 vaccines plays an important role in addressing vaccine hesitancy. We conducted a large cohort study to evaluate the risk of non-COVID-19 mortality after COVID-19 vaccination while adjusting for confounders including individual-level demographics, clinical risk factors, health care utilization, and community-level socioeconomic risk factors."
Yup it reduces the severity of the infection and risk of death.
It's not meant to prevent transmission.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Then I wouldn't call it a vaccine but that's just me.
Well that's the same for all vaccines.
That's a misunderstanding on your part. Vaccines aren't complete nullifiers. In fact I can only think of one: smallpox. Instead they reduce* transmission to a point that with enough people vaccinated the transmission vector is negligible. This is what we wanted with Covid. It's herd immunity that helps.
But that ship sailed the first couple month's we refused everyone getting vaccinated.
These mass vaccination efforts are why smallpox, polio, and the yearly flu aren't killing people regularly anymore.
Edit:
"Preventing disease:
Some vaccines, like those for polio and measles, prevent diseases. For example, the COVID-19 vaccine can prevent infection and reduce the risk of disease. However, not everyone who gets vaccinated will be protected from the disease.
Reducing severity:
Vaccines can also reduce the severity of a disease, making it less likely that someone will be hospitalized or die from it. For example, the flu and COVID-19 vaccines can reduce the severity of those diseases."
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The only person I know personally who died of COVID was "vaccinated" five times before she got it just a few weeks after her last vaccination. So no thanks. I mean, it just is not predictable. I also got COVID just a few weeks after I was "vaccinated" against it but hey, I didn't die so there's that to be grateful for I guess. However, the people I know who were not vaccinated against it also didn't die even though they did get sick with COVID, like everyone else I know. So I guess it's a crap shoot.
I think the bottom line is that none of us are likely to die from COVID, unless we have pre existing conditions or are elderly or both. All I know is that the last time I got a COVID shot, I had a headache for FOUR DAYS so no thanks. And I wasn't expecting any side effects (I had three shots because I was traveling so much).
I think the bottom line is that none of us are likely to die from COVID, unless we have pre existing conditions or are elderly or both. All I know is that the last time I got a COVID shot, I had a headache for FOUR DAYS so no thanks. And I wasn't expecting any side effects (I had three shots because I was traveling so much).
Uhm
Yeah. One headline posted from Twatter means little. Kind of like the rest of your posts I've read. It's only worth ignoring.
I stick with the peer-reviewed science. Not news headlines. News sources have a terrible record of simplifying things to the point of misrepresentation of the science, in order to make it so those that aren't able to read the science understand it's basics.
Nothing is set in stone. There are always outliers, the flu vaccine kills people too, and people that get smallpox can have complications
To ignore the science because a few are outside the bell-curve. Is well... Ignorant.
I'm not calling you dumb, it's just bad reasoning and logic. Which is your prerogative.
I only provide the tools (info), what one does with the tool is up to them. I can't make someone stop using a screwdriver as a hammer.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
LOL what's so wrong about using a screwdriver as a hammer? LOL
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Yes, yes, hurry up and get you next booster.
McBell
Unbound
Yes I can.
As for the "repeater for the ignorant" that is your title as easily demonstrated by your posts in this very thread.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
The facts are not on your side.
McBell
Unbound
McBell
Unbound
As per normal, you got your facts backwards.
But no worries, the real surprise would have been that you got a fact correct.
Some have still not given up hope for you.
I am not one of them.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
There is no reason to believe a word you say.