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Survey - 14% Of Republicans Would Attempt Over-Turning Election If Trump Loses

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Peoples' wet dreams, but not mine thankfully. Hey I just want to sleep.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So a little quick down-and-dirty math. Approximately 74 million people voted Republican in 2020. 14% of that is a little over 10 million people who say they will "take action". If only 1 % of those who say they will "take action" actually do "take action" that is still 100 000 people.

Is my math right? Is my math terrifying?
More disturbing than terrifying.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
And even less disturbing than terrifying. I have no plans to alter any plans by the way. Do any of you?
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Excerpted...
Nearly half of Republicans say they won’t accept the results of the presidential election if their candidate loses, and some of them say they would “take action to overturn” the results, according to data released Tuesday.

About a quarter of Democrats said they wouldn’t accept the results if their candidate loses, and fewer Democrats than Republicans said they would “take action to overturn” the results.

The nonpartisan World Justice Project, which keeps an index of how strong the rule of law is in more than 100 countries, gathered the data as part of a larger study. The poll was conducted through online interviews with 1,046 American households between June 10 and June 18.

The report did not ask people what specific “action” they would take to overturn the election results, just that that 46% of Republicans and 27% of Democrats wouldn't accept results, and 14% of Republicans compared with 1% of Democrats said they would "take action."

Elizabeth Andersen, the group’s executive director, said the results are “kind of startling” and amount to about one-third of Americans being unwilling to accept the presidential election results if their candidate loses.
The USToday is a Leftist rag, and this is election time. The question should have been, if either team wins, and later it is found out that the "winning team", cheated, should they be removed from office and locked up?

If we agree to this, then they may not be any need for violence. The limited violence of Jan 6, was assumed to be needed, since the crooks, once installed, could game the legal system, to escape justice. But if we have an automatic investigation, by an independent group, after each election, that can go on for years, this would calm any potential violence. Violence is due to a feeling of hopelessness to thieves gaining power, circling the wagons, and hiding/destroying evidence and witnesses. If there is hope, justice can be served, people will wait.

It took Elon Musk, buying Twitter before, we knew, for sure, how the DNC used Government; FBI pressure, to force all of social media to censor and shadow ban the Republican influencers, and block the Hunter Biden Laptop story. This made the difference, in 2020, since Trump would have won, if the laptop story was not censored and the RNC did not disappear on social media. Trump gave the FBI, the laptop a year in advance and the FBI reneged on the truth. The DNC and FBI lie made Trump look like the thief, when it was the DNC. But it took time for the truth to come out.

That was election interference bolstered by the 50 lying DNC intel hacks and props used to make the lie look real. If you think that that censoring was not a big deal, how about Trump gets to dominate social media until after this election? While the DNC will be shadow banned and censored, so you will not even know their best mouth piece are there, the last month and a half.

Should the DNC and fake news be fined for their constant hate speech against Trump, since that 8 year drum beat is leading to a self fulfilling prophesy? And should Trump be allowed to sue, for all the hate speech, that is inciting assassins, if not stopped? Or does the DNC need the hate to rally its troops? Could the DNC work without hate, sticking to policy?

The DNC run DHS and SS Agencies in charge of Trump security, are not being forth coming about the first assassination attempt. What are they hiding? Now even a lead Democrat Senator on the Senate Investigative Committee, Blumenthal, is upset about the DHS's dereliction of duty and its stonewalling. My guess is there is something not kosher, that if made known, could influence the election, so it is being covered up, until after.

This would be the type of thing a post election investigative committee, would look into, but with more teeth than a committee that can be stonewalled and nobody goes to jail. Without such a committee, my guess the DNC, if they win, will use law fare to continue the stonewall until they can destroy the evidence.

How many think a post election investigation would be a good idea after all elections?
 
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Pogo

Well-Known Member
The USToday is a Leftist rag, and this is election time. The question should have been, if either team wins, and later it is found out that the "winning team", cheated, should they be removed from office and locked up?

If we agree to this, then they may not be any need for violence. The limited violence of Jan 6, was assumed to be needed, since the crooks, once installed, could game the legal system, to escape justice. But if we have an automatic investigation, by an independent group, after each election, that can go on for years, this would calm any potential violence. Violence is due to a feeling of hopelessness to thieves gaining power, circling the wagons, and hiding/destroying evidence and witnesses. If there is hope, justice can be served, people will wait.

It took Elon Musk, buying Twitter before, we knew, for sure, how the DNC used Government; FBI pressure, to force all of social media to censor and shadow ban the Republican influencers, and block the Hunter Biden Laptop story. This made the difference, in 2020, since Trump would have won, if the laptop story was not censored and the RNC did not disappear on social media. Trump gave the FBI, the laptop a year in advance and the FBI reneged on the truth. The DNC and FBI lie made Trump look like the thief, when it was the DNC. But it took time for the truth to come out.

That was election interference bolstered by the 50 lying DNC intel hacks and props used to make the lie look real. If you think that that censoring was not a big deal, how about Trump gets to dominate social media until after this election? While the DNC will be shadow banned and censored, so you will not even know their best mouth piece are there, the last month and a half.

Should the DNC and fake news be fined for their constant hate speech against Trump, since that 8 year drum beat is leading to a self fulfilling prophesy? And should Trump be allowed to sue, for all the hate speech, that is inciting assassins, if not stopped? Or does the DNC need the hate to rally its troops? Could the DNC work without hate, sticking to policy?

The DNC run DHS and SS Agencies in charge of Trump security, are not being forth coming about the first assassination attempt. What are they hiding? Now even a lead Democrat Senator on the Senate Investigative Committee, Blumenthal, is upset about the DHS's dereliction of duty and its stonewalling. My guess is there is something not kosher, that if made known, could influence the election, so it is being covered up, until after.

This would be the type of thing a post election investigative committee, would look into, but with more teeth than a committee that can be stonewalled and nobody goes to jail. Without such a committee, my guess the DNC, if they win, will use law fare to continue the stonewall until they can destroy the evidence.

How many think a post election investigation would be a good idea after all elections?
We have been running elections for almost 250 years without reanalyzing what happened every time because there are a few ignorant people like you that don't understand that we have also been building safety and accountability systems into the normal procedure such that there is no need to invent another set of reviews just because a few people can't handle the truth.
This last time, there were over 60 court cases brought looking and claiming deficiencies in the system, none of them demonstrated any problems in the system. In fact one of the more ridiculous claims cost Fox $700 million because even they knew it was false.

\We already have well established systems to oversee the reliability of elections and until you can actually demonstrate a problem rather than a feeling, go away and do the real work of winning elections by getting people to vote for your positions.
:facepalm:
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
In short, 14% of Pubs would commit
treason for Trump, but only 1% of
Dems would do it for Harris.
Well, to be fair "take action" would include peaceful protests. The Jan 6 protest might have remained non-violent if not for the organized efforts of the proud boys and other extremist groups. I can see there being protests the days after the election because both sides see the other as dangerous. Trump is already pushing lies about there being election fraud in the system, so he is setting the stage to rile up his followers who could easily find themselves whipped up into violence again. They aren't exactly savvy and introspective thinkers. Of course the MAGAs can't articulate exactly what is dangerous about what Harris advocates for. It's quite obvious why Trump's win is dangerous for the future.

I'd be curious to hear what our forum MAGAs think, how is Harris dangerous?
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, to be fair "take action" would include peaceful protests. The Jan 6 protest might have remained non-violent if not for the organized efforts of the proud boys and other extremist groups. I can see there being protests the days after the election because both sides see the other as dangerous. Trump is already pushing lies about there being election fraud in the system. Of course the MAGAs can't articulate exactly what is dangerous about what Harris advocates for. It's quite obvious why Trump's win is dangerous for the future.
Peaceful protests seem less than to "take action".
Such protests would be more in line with those
who don't accept the other side's win.
But there's no clarity on this.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
How many think a post election investigation would be a good idea after all elections?
Fine if such was guaranteed to be independent of politics (and verified as to such), but can one be sure this would be the case rather than simply being an endorsement and stamp of approval by those who were apparently voted into power. Loading SCOTUS with those most likely to vote one way is hardly a way to ensure such things. o_O
 
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