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Swear Religious Oath Or Get The Boot From Air Force

Bunyip

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
That is absolutely inexcusable.

It is sadly not surprising though, there does appear to be a strong Christian far right influence in the US defence forces.

You have complete freedom of religion - as long as it is Christianity.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Bunyip said:
That is absolutely inexcusable.

It is sadly not surprising though, there does appear to be a strong Christian far right influence in the US defence forces.

You have complete freedom of religion - as long as it is Christianity.
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I believe the rationale is that "God" applies to any religion.
But ya gotta have a religion. Without one, what's to prevent
you from doing something like becoming a murderous terrorist?
 
Bunyip

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Revoltingest said:
I believe the rationale is that "God" applies to any religion.
But ya gotta have a religion. Without one, what's to prevent
you from doing something like becoming a murderous terrorist?
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ROLFMAO Oh the irony!

Brilliant comment.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
dust1n said:
Just another thing keeping me from being drafted.
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Oh, no....it ain't that easy. When I considered applying for CO (conscientious
objector) status, belief in gods/god was necessary in order to qualify.
You'd just be tossed in the army. They'd take anyone, since it took no
skill to be cannon fodder.
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
We heathens don't force the faithful to swear there's no God.
So why do they demand that everyone swear an oath to their God?
Atheist must swear to God -- or leave US Air Force

I bet they'd blow a gasket if they knew how many atheists like me
designed the planes they depend upon for their very existence.
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It's okay if you build the plane. It's only when atheists try to FLY them that they drop out of the sky.
 
Bunyip

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
I think that this does actually impact the entire global security realm.

Because the US armed forces are so vocally theistic it tends to colour the conflict in the Middle East as an interfaith clash of opposing civilisations.

What is a political issue becomes a battle between competing faiths - and that doesn't help.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Bunyip said:
I think that this does actually impact the entire global security realm.

Because the US armed forces are so vocally theistic it tends to colour the conflict in the Middle East as an interfaith clash of opposing civilisations.

What is a political issue becomes a battle between competing faiths - and that doesn't help.
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Yes, this has been a perception regarding the Army.
I notice that the Commander In Chief isn't weighing in to correct the situation which
exacerbates religious tensions with our deadly enemies in the wars he continued.
So much for his promised "new beginning" with Islam, eh?
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Revoltingest said:
Oh, no....it ain't that easy. When I considered applying for CO (conscientious
objector) status, belief in gods/god was necessary in order to qualify.
You'd just be tossed in the army. They'd take anyone, since it took no
skill to be cannon fodder.
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Fair enough. Oh well, I still got the MS to fall back on.
 
Bunyip

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Revoltingest said:
Yes, this has been a perception regarding the Army.
I notice that the Commander In Chief isn't weighing in to correct the situation which
exacerbates religious tensions with our deadly enemies in the wars he continued.
So much for his promised "new beginning" with Islam, eh?
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Sadly chatacterising local political conflicts as some great global clash of faiths is an all too common tactical error for the US. Take Vietnam for example - a local intertribal conflict is painted as a great clash between communism and capitalism, ie good and evil.

It doesn't help.
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
Yes, this has been a perception regarding the Army.
I notice that the Commander In Chief isn't weighing in to correct the situation which
exacerbates religious tensions with our deadly enemies in the wars he continued.
So much for his promised "new beginning" with Islam, eh?
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You're missing the fact that 'God' isn't talking about a Christian God, it's just talking about monotheistic God. Allah is just as welcome in the US military as Christian God.
I'm sure.

:sarcastic
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
lewisnotmiller said:
You're missing the fact that 'God' isn't talking about a Christian God, it's just talking about monotheistic God. Allah is just as welcome in the US military as Christian God.
I'm sure.

:sarcastic
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Yes, I'm sure the Xians in charge had Allah in mind too when they chose "God" for the oath.
 
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