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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I think you need a citation with that French Revolution bit, or at least an explanation... I mean, to be helpful... If you wanted... I think that connection would be difficult for me to make using google.
The Left vs Right thing came out of the French Revolution, with the Right wing favoring the monarchy and the rigid social hierarchy it brought, whereas the Left wing was opposed to the monarchy and favored more social and economic equality.
Left–right political spectrum - Wikipedia
In France, where the terms originated, the left has been called "the party of movement" and the right "the party of order".[3][4][5][6] The intermediate stance is called centrism and a person with such a position is a moderate or centrist.
The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.[7] One deputy, the Baron de Gauville, explained: "We began to recognize each other: those who were loyal to religion and the king took up positions to the right of the chair so as to avoid the shouts, oaths, and indecencies that enjoyed free rein in the opposing camp".[8]
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
The Left vs Right thing came out of the French Revolution, with the Right wing favoring the monarchy and the rigid social hierarchy it brought, whereas the Left wing was opposed to the monarchy and favored more social and economic equality.
Left–right political spectrum - Wikipedia

Interesting. Ive never studied much of the political aspects of the French Revolution, I suppose my focus has been primarily of the religious perspective involving the Catholic Church.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Capitalism is just part of libertarianism.
Just in America. In other parts of the world, no, as they havent welded personal freedoms together with economic freedoms. This partly why even BoJo and Thatcher like the NHS and see protecting it as an imperative. The American Libertarian models are incongruent with is approach. The economy part wasnt fused together, and the liberty of good health won out over the economic issues, where America tends to put the economic "work for it if you want it" mentality with healthcare.
This separation of economics from social is also how those like me are considered Marxist-Libertarians. Other places that works just fine, even if in America its seen as an oxymoron of divine epic magnitude.

Libertarianism - Wikipedia
Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists,[6] especially social anarchists,[7] but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists.[8][9]
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In the mid-20th century, right-libertarian[15][18][22][23] ideologies such as anarcho-capitalism and minarchism co-opted[8][24] the term libertarian to advocate laissez-faire capitalism and strong private property rights such as in land, infrastructure and natural resources.[25] The latter is the dominant form of libertarianism in the United States,[23] where it advocates civil liberties,[26] natural law,[27] free-market capitalism[28][29] and a major reversal of the modern welfare state.[30].
Just like Ayn Rand, its an American thing.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Interesting. Ive never studied much of the political aspects of the French Revolution, I suppose my focus has been primarily of the religious perspective involving the Catholic Church.
It was a part of my history lessons, both in secular high school and Evangelical homeschooling (though this was more as it pertained to the Church, and was very biased towards the Monarchy).
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Just in America. In other parts of the world, no, as they havent welded personal freedoms together with economic freedoms. This partly why even BoJo and Thatcher like the NHS and see protecting it as an imperative. The American Libertarian models are incongruent with is approach. The economy part wasnt fused together, and the liberty of good health won out over the economic issues, where America tends to put the economic "work for it if you want it" mentality with healthcare.
This separation of economics from social is also how those like me are considered Marxist-Libertarians. Other places that works just fine, even if in America its seen as an oxymoron of divine epic magnitude.

Libertarianism - Wikipedia

Just like Ayn Rand, its an American thing.
Check my earlier post about Libertarian parties around the world.
 
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