Talking past each other.

[Estro Felino]

No, not a given. Sometime people ask loaded questions.

Can you give me the definition of "loaded question"?

 

[LuisDantas]

How often do we talk past each other?

Think about the conversations you witness on this site. Often times it is like a broken record between certain individuals. They rinse and repeat the same arguments on the same topics, with neither side seemingly willing to budge. I think this gets us nowhere, but to each their own.

I wanted to make this thread to ask you to ask yourself if you truly listen to what others are saying. Or do you talk past them, finding more importance in getting verbiage out of your mouth?

It is important that we listen. It is important we keep an open mind and let the others speak.

Increasingly I have found worth in cutting communication short. It is a shame that I have to. It is a bigger shame when I fail to acknowledge the need.

There can be no mutual understanding when one (or both) sides have as a goal not mutual understanding, but emotional unbalancing or manipulation (often in the form of presenting absurd ideas or outright lies as if they were respectable).

I have learned to recognize those situations and expose them.

It is unpleasant, but minimizes the harms.

True dialog is of course valuable and constructive, but it just isn't very easy to establish these days. It used to be much easier some 25 or 30 years ago.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Can you give me the definition of "loaded question"?

No, but I can give you 2 examples of how to do it relevant for the debate we have in different threads.

-Have you stopped supporting the ethical cleansing of Ukrainian children by the Russians?
-Have you stopped supporting of the destruction of Russia by the West?

Another one as related to religion - Please explain the creation of the universe?

Can you spot how the questions are loaded?

 

[Estro Felino]

No, but I can give you 2 examples of how to do it relevant for the debate we have in different threads.

-Have you stopped supporting the ethical cleansing of Ukrainian children by the Russians?
-Have you stopped supporting of the destruction of Russia by the West?

Another one as related to religion - Please explain the creation of the universe?

Can you spot how the questions are loaded?

I don't even know what you mean by loaded questions, so how can I know they are loaded?
Give me the definition.

Is this definition ok? What Are Loaded Questions?Turn Survey Data into Actionable Insights with Dashboards and Sentiment Analysis.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I don't even know what you mean by loaded questions, so how can I know they are loaded?
Give me the definition.

Is this definition ok? What Are Loaded Questions?Turn Survey Data into Actionable Insights with Dashboards and Sentiment Analysis.

Well, yes. There is a hidden assumption in the question. Can you spot the 2 different ones?
And no, they are not questions to you, they are examples:
-Have you stopped supporting the ethical cleansing of Ukrainian children by the Russians?
-Please explain the creation of the universe?

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, yes. There is a hidden assumption in the question. Can you spot the 2 different ones?
And no, they are not questions to you, they are examples:
-Have you stopped supporting the ethical cleansing of Ukrainian children by the Russians?
-Please explain the creation of the universe?

The debate is like the debate in a courtroom. The district attorney or prosecutor asks questions to the defendant, in order to make him confess.
That's what a debate is. I have the mentality of the district attorney.

Example.
If I think that you side with Ukraine because you hope that the NATO conquers Russia, and you won't admit it, I will ask you questions to make you confess.

That's what a debate it.

 

[Ebionite]

The problem is when people ask questions and those questions remain unanswered.
If someone doesn't answer a simple question, asked politely and on topic, it means they are in bad faith.
And they are here not to debate, but to convince themselves of their own fragile convictions.

Most, but not all people here argue in good faith (IMO). Among those who argue in good faith most suffer from confirmation bias and will not accept opposing arguments even when they're valid. This is part of Christianity since according to the standard Christian doctrine, salvation is dependent on belief in that doctrine.

 

[Estro Felino]

Most, but not all people here argue in good faith (IMO). Among those who argue in good faith most suffer from confirmation bias and will not accept opposing arguments even when they're valid.

I agree with you. I believe that most people are in good faith.

This is part of Christianity since according to the standard Christian doctrine, salvation is dependent on belief in that doctrine.

Interesting theory.

 

[Ebionite]

Interesting theory.

The question of what forms of faith are valid is part of the subtext of the Bible. It's not stated outright, but it is part of argument of faith vs works, and faith is relevant for the appointed time as described by Habakkuk.


I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved.
And YHWH answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make [it] plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
For the vision [is] yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.
Behold, his soul [which] is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, [he is] a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and [is] as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
Habakkuk 2:1-5

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 1:17

 

[Spice]

Can you give me the definition of "loaded question"?

This ^^^^ is a "loaded question."