PureX
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So vote out every incumbent, every time, regardless of party. It's the only way we're ever going to clean up the corrupt mess we've allowed our government to become.
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Tax the Dead!
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Tambourine
Well-Known Member
I can't help but laugh out loud when people quote an outspoken socialist like Eric Arthur Blair to attack "communism".
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
But inherited wealth is wealth you didn't work for.But, no, it doesn't make the children moochers. It makes the government moochers and the people (not family) who want what I worked for moochers.Do you want the money that other people worked for?
By definition, if you inherit, you are getting stuff that other people worked for.
Notanumber
A Free Man
UK state pension increases are under threat while MP’s salaries keep on going up regardless.
Notanumber
A Free Man
We keep being told that we should listen to the experts. He obviously knew the subject having been involved in it.
I'm not sure what your point is. Every gift you get is stuff that other people worked for... it is the very definition of a gift. An inheritance is gifted. So, what was the point you wanted to make?
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
An inheritance is not a gift. Gifts are given by living people.
Dead people cannot give anybody anything, because they're dead. So I don't think your analogy works.
What Is the Tax Difference Between a Gift and Inheritance?
It is a matter of semantics.
"Whether you receive something as a gift from someone or as an inheritance, you end up as the owner either way"
I see it as my departing gift.
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
"Semantics" concerns itself with the meaning of words and statements, so yes, it is a matter of different words and statements having different meanings.
Then what's the difference between a gift and a robbery? After all, you end up as the owner either way.
It cannot be a gift because, as I said, dead people can't give anybody anything, on account of being dead.
That's literally the difference between a gift and an inheritance: In the former case, the former owner is still alive, and can oversee gift giving procedures. In the latter case, all of this needs to be handled by either the state, or specifically empowered experts, using a specific type of contract.
Then it is still a gift in as much I am very much alive and have gifted them what I have. The date of the gift is no different than a certificate of deposit redeemable at maturity date
Not to mention, I am very much alive after my body dies.
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
If you're actually going to go zombie on everyone, then you won't need inheritance law anyway, you could just walk over to people and yell "braiiiins!" until you got your message across.Then it is still a gift in as much I am very much alive and have gifted them what I have. The date of the gift is no different than a certificate of deposit redeemable at maturity date
Why are not in agreement for me to be a giver? Your statements just don't seem to connect. Are you not preparing a gift for your descendants?If you're actually going to go zombie on everyone, then you won't need inheritance law anyway, you could just walk over to people and yell "braiiiins!" until you got your message across.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I think the discussion has drifted far away from the main point and you haven't even stated that it applies to you. (I suspect it doesn't.)
So let me ask you, do you think that rich people earn their riches? They shouldn't be taxed higher than others because they worked for their riches?
Are you a "responsibility", "self reliance", right leaning person?
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
I can't give gifts when I'm dead.
Yes, as in all OP, it generally strays.
I am an independent thinker.
Yes, I think the more people earn they can pay higher taxes. But I think it is high enough as the problem (as I stated before) is not the need of more taxes but rather less spending.
There are over 14,000,000 millionaires in the US and I think the vast majority worked for their position in income. Certainly some were inherited but I don't begrudge their inheritance. Many of the offspring end up loosing their money anyway but some continue working for their position.
Certainly I believe in responsibility for oneself as well as the responsibility to help others.
Don't know what "right leaning" really means. I may be right on some things and left on others (I do not know).
I am not self-reliant. I need God, I need His help and His blessing.
You can if you put it in your will
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
As we already established, inheritances are not gifts.You can if you put it in your will
of which I disagreed.
But we can agree to disagree and the inheritance will still be my children's.
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
No need for that. We only need to come to a common ground over whether there is a meaningful, material and legal difference between being alive and being dead.of which I disagreed.
Well... I died at 28 and the life that I now live, I live in the faith of the Son of God and I live forevermore.