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"Tea Party wants slavery removed from student textbooks."

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The article seemed rather dishonest....lots'o putting words in other people's mouths & generalizing about the many from the purported actions of the few.
I'd like to see more coverage of the darker side of American history, eg, anti-blasphemy laws, Japanese internment in WW2, conquering of Hawaii. Let's
also show warts & peccadillos of prominent historical figures, eg, Jefferson, Washington, MLK, etc, etc.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
And restructure your school system to ensure an ever-increasing population of village idiots, apparently.

I am three quarters convinced that the failure of our schools is a plot by our politicians and leaders to dumb us down for easier manipulation.

Like, today, I posted on my blog a tight little summary of the steps the US Government takes when it wants to demonize someone. The US Government takes the same steps each time -- regardless of whether the target is Sadam Hussein, Julian Assange or someone else. So, I was thinking as I posted those steps that, if our system were a bit more geared to producing good citizens than to merely producing good workers, those steps would be taught in classrooms so that people would be better able to defend themselves when their government lies to them. But no way is that ever going to happen.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I am three quarters convinced that the failure of our schools is a plot by our politicians and leaders to dumb us down for easier manipulation.

Like, today, I posted on my blog a tight little summary of the steps the US Government takes when it wants to demonize someone. The US Government takes the same steps each time -- regardless of whether the target is Sadam Hussein, Julian Assange or someone else. So, I was thinking as I posted those steps that, if our system were a bit more geared to producing good citizens than to merely producing good workers, those steps would be taught in classrooms so that people would be better able to defend themselves when their government lies to them. But no way is that ever going to happen.

Yeah, I am amazed that no effort whatever is made to prepare children for the life-long journey of shameless, cynical manipulation they are about to embark upon. Century of the Self would be required viewing in any class I would care to teach.
 

TurkeyOnRye

Well-Known Member
This isn't a joke article is it?

I've asked this question many times before on this forum, but really, how do we know this is true? Are there actually people this brain dead that have the capacity to beat their heart and inflate and deflate their lungs? Perhaps it's the internet demonstrating a capacity to diminish returns on the validity of information through successive mutation of the original data. I'm getting concerned.
 

TJ73

Active Member
Every REAL thing I learned about black history and American slavery I learned outside of school. I remember vividly how my teacher made every attempt to excuse it and tell us, while there were SOME mean masters, most were KIND to their slaves. Oh I felt so much better knowing they were mostly kind... to slaves. But I sure knew better.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
More historical revisionism from the Right. Sickening, these Conservatard Nazis need to be rejected by every good person in all conscience. Anything Republican, "Libertarian" or TEA Party is toxic.
Are you dishonest or stupid for buying into this lame over-generalization?
Libertarians have no skeletons in their closet with respect to Democrats, who first defended slavery & then Jim Crow.
 

Random

Well-Known Member
Are you dishonest or stupid for buying into this lame over-generalization? Libertarians have no skeletons in their closet with respect to Democrats, who first defended slavery & then Jim Crow.

Yes, well I'll leave the ideological squabbling to you and your fellow Americans.

The fact remains that the TEA Party and Republicans in general now plead Constitutionalism and the mantra of the "Founding Fathers" for political gain, whilst editing out the bits of the constitution they don't like. It doesn't take much of a stretch to mark this approach as intellectually dishonest and pure revisionism.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The fact remains that the TEA Party and Republicans in general now plead Constitutionalism and the mantra of the "Founding Fathers" for political gain, whilst editing out the bits of the constitution they don't like. It doesn't take much of a stretch to mark this approach as intellectually dishonest and pure revisionism.
Both major parties play fast & loose with the Constitution. Given your posts, you ought not be too quick to call anyone else "dishonest" or "toxic".
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Both major parties play fast & loose with the Constitution. Given your posts, you ought not be too quick to call anyone else "dishonest" or "toxic".

The GOP claims to love Strict constructionism. They are more then willing to change things when it is to there liking (I.E. Bush v Gore) The Dems at least are honest about their views on the constitution. I agree with the Dems change is a good thing.
 

croak

Trickster
This isn't a joke article is it?

I've asked this question many times before on this forum, but really, how do we know this is true? Are there actually people this brain dead that have the capacity to beat their heart and inflate and deflate their lungs? Perhaps it's the internet demonstrating a capacity to diminish returns on the validity of information through successive mutation of the original data. I'm getting concerned.
If history teaches us anything... yes, there are people that think that way.

An article from May 2010: Texas textbook war: 'Slavery' or 'Atlantic triangular trade'? - CSMonitor.com

CSMonitor said:
Among the changes: Students would be required to learn about the “unintended consequences” of Title IX, affirmative action, and the Great Society, and would need to study conservative icons like Phyllis Schlafly, the Heritage Foundation, and the Moral Majority.

The slave trade would be renamed the “Atlantic triangular trade,” American “imperialism” changed to “expansionism,” and all references to “capitalism” have been replaced with “free enterprise.”

The role of Thomas Jefferson – who argued for the separation of church and state – is minimized in several places, and the standards would emphasize the degree to which the Founding Fathers were driven by Christian principles.

As for what actually got into the textbooks: Texas adopts new social studies curriculum - Washington Times

Washington Times said:
In final edits leading up to the vote, conservatives rejected language to modernize the classification of historic periods to B.C.E. and C.E. from the traditional B.C. and A.D. They also required that public school students in Texas evaluate efforts by global organizations such as the United Nations to undermine U.S. sovereignty.
McLeroy offered the amendment requiring students to evaluate efforts by global organizations including the U.N. to undermine U.S. sovereignty, saying they threatened individual liberty and freedom.

During the monthslong process of creating the guidelines, conservatives successfully strengthened the requirements on teaching the Judeo-Christian influences of the nation's Founding Fathers and attempted to water down rationale for the separation of church and state.

The standards will refer to the U.S. government as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic," and students will be required to study the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard.
 
This is a continual whitewashing of history done by conservatives in order to justify white privilege. If anything, people need to face up to the past and learn from it. And you won't learn from the past if you delete whatever you don't like.
 
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