"Teens are having sex sooner (and raunchier) than ever before"

[Subduction Zone]

This is why we need to include course in statistics in our k- 12 education. We live in the age of data, but the general population is data illiterate.

If I was making a formal statement then I would need to do a bit more work. Once again, I was nowhere close to doing that. Nor was I merely speculating. My statement would be somewhere in between.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

If I was making a formal statement then I would need to do a bit more work. Once again, I was nowhere close to doing that. Nor was I merely speculating. My statement would be somewhere in between.

Speculation is speculation and you have no evidence whatsoever.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Did you see me use the word fact? Anywhere, in there at all? I am talking about evidence.

The evidence would be found in the peer reviewed article that the linked article was based upon:

http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(17)30330-0/fulltext

I am not about to pay to get at it, but it does exist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Speculation is speculation and you have no evidence whatsoever.

Actually I do have evidence. Once again I only lack the hard evidence from this source.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

The evidence would be found in the peer reviewed article that the linked article was based upon:

http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(17)30330-0/fulltext

I am not about to pay to get at it, but it does exist.

I can access it, give me a min. to review it.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Actually I do have evidence. Once again I only lack the hard evidence from this source.

Not even the right study, that mention of bisexual women is a reference to a different study.

Population surveys in the United States [17], for example, have shown oral and anal sex with an opposite-sex partner is more commonly reported by women reporting bisexual attraction than those reporting heterosexual attraction only, which prompts the need for more nuanced targeting.

Notice the 17 as a citation note, here is the associated citation.

Copen, C.E., Chandra, A., and Febo-Vazquez, I. Sexual behavior, sexual attraction, and sexual orientation among adults aged 18-44 in the United States: Data from the 2011-2013 National Survey of Family Growth. Natl Health Stat Rep. 2016; : 1–14

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not even the right study, that mention of bisexual women is a reference to a different study.
Notice the 17 as a citation note, here is the associated citation.

I have my doubts. That article is based upon more than one study, and you have already shown that you are less than reliable in your statements:

And why did you not chase that article down?

Sexual Behavior, Sexual Attraction, and Sexual Orientation Among Adults Aged 18-44 in the United States: Data From the 2011-2013 National Survey of... - PubMed - NCBI

At any rate the evidence is out there. I am merely not willing to go so far as to make a formal statement on the existing evidence.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I have my doubts. That article is based upon more than one study, and you have already shown that you are less than reliable in your statements:

And why did you not chase that article down?

Sexual Behavior, Sexual Attraction, and Sexual Orientation Among Adults Aged 18-44 in the United States: Data From the 2011-2013 National Survey of... - PubMed - NCBI

At any rate the evidence is out there. I am merely not willing to go so far as to make a formal statement on the existing evidence.

There is no evidence to support your speculation in that link there.

"At any rate the evidence is out there."

This means that you don't have supporting evidence. Holy moly, you might want to consider taking a science class at some point in your life.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is no evidence to support your speculation in that link there.

"At any rate the evidence is out there."

This means that you don't have supporting evidence. Holy moly, you might want to consider taking a science class at some point in your life.

Sure there is. You even admitted to its existence.

Try again.

You still don't understand how to use the word "speculation" properly.

Thanks for playing.

Twice I have found sources for you. When you post something that supports your claims I might do more than laugh at you.

Here is a link to the full article for the second link that I posted:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs//data/nhsr/nhsr088.pdf

Take your time. I have to run for now. I did your research for you. Let's see if you can use it.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Sure there is. You even admitted to its existence.

Try again.

You still don't understand how to use the word "speculation" properly.

Thanks for playing.

Twice I have found sources for you. When you post something that supports your claims I might do more than laugh at you.

I am a stats major, my education is what supports my claims. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What do you mean? Why do you think that makes no sense? And I though there are some women that like gay porn, I don't think the numbers are anywhere near as high as men liking lesbian porn. Let's do a quick search:

According to Pornhub it appears that gay sex is not high on what women watch at all:

Women's Favorite Searches Worldwide – Pornhub Insights

There do not seem to be very many surveys of what women actually watch. Pornhub's reporting of what women watch is the closest I can come to an actual survey. All that I can find generally is that women do watch porn and that for some strange reason people were surprised by this finding.

It doesn't make sense because lesbians aren't likely to have sex with men, obviously. Men are probably just into girl on girl because one girl is hot enough but another girl is even hotter. As for women, there's a taboo about them liking porn but guy on guy is popular among women, judging from the popularity of things like slash fiction which is pretty much just written by women.

 

[David T]

I didn't think much of this thread until I read the Raunchier part.

Yea but no details!! Damn.

 

[David T]

One is never more than "two links away" from hardcore porn on the internet. There is even a song about it, from YouTube before softcore porn began to appear even there:

I thought it was the other way around. My bad.

 

[David T]

This is why we need to include course in statistics in our k- 12 education. We live in the age of data, but the general population is data illiterate.

So they can learn the what percentile they are in sexual exploration" I am in the upper percentile in anal sex yippie" since everyone is a winner today they might give awards out for that.

 

[David T]

"As teenagers are breaking taboos and have a much more casual attitude towards sex, education is struggling to keep up.

Researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and University College London have monitored the sexual practices of teens for decades (through surveys). Everything seems to indicate the same thing: teens are having more sex, more unconventional sex, and they’re starting sooner.

They surveyed 45,199 Brits born between 1935 and 1996. During that period, the average age for losing virginity went down from 19 for men and 20 for women to 16 for both. However, that age hasn’t changed much in recent decades — whether it’s vaginal, anal or oral, teens have been having sex since they’re 16. However, some things have changed in recent years. Particularly, teens are trying out more things. Just 1 in 10 of sexually active teens tried all three in 1990/91, a figure that now stands at 1 in 4 men and 1 in 5 women. Interestingly, the surveys also reveal bisexual women have more sex with men than straight women do.

Kaye Wellings, senior author and professor of sexual and reproductive health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, says these shifts should surprise no one:

'The changes in practices we see here are consistent with the widening of other aspects of young people’s sexual experience, and are perhaps not surprising given the rapidly changing social context and the ever-increasing number of influences on sexual behaviour.' ”​

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While I imagine most here disapprove of the trend toward loosing one's virginity earlier in life, what about the increase in non-intercourse sex?
(It bothers me that the article's title refers to it as "raunchier.")

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Now this is funny topic.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

So they can learn the what percentile they are in sexual exploration" I am in the upper percentile in anal sex yippie" since everyone is a winner today they might give awards out for that.

What?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am a stats major, my education is what supports my claims. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Fine, you are a stats major. That only means that you understand how statistics may be applied to the sciences. There are definitely times when they are of value, but you do not seem to understand the concept of evidence.

By the way, you just made an appeal to authority fallacy.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Fine, you are a stats major. That only means that you understand how statistics may be applied to the sciences. There are definitely times when they are of value, but you do not seem to understand the concept of evidence.

By the way, you just made an appeal to authority fallacy.

I don't think you know what it means, and it is not a fallacy when the authority is valid.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It doesn't make sense because lesbians aren't likely to have sex with men, obviously. Men are probably just into girl on girl because one girl is hot enough but another girl is even hotter. As for women, there's a taboo about them liking porn but guy on guy is popular among women, judging from the popularity of things like slash fiction which is pretty much just written by women.

Just because you see two women together does not mean that they are lesbians. In fact the studies cited showed that women were much more likely to at least dabble in same sex activities than men were. 17.4% of women had some sort of same sex contact. 5.5% of women said that they were bisexual and only 1.3% said that they were lesbian. So if a man sees two women together the odds are actually rather likely to have sex with men. Hope springs eternal.

" Almost three times as many women (17.4%) reported any same-sex contact in their lifetime compared with men (6.2%) aged 18–44. Feelings of attraction “only to the opposite sex” were more common for men (92.1%) compared with women (81.0%) aged 18–44. Among those aged 18–44, 92.3% of women and 95.1% of men said they were “heterosexual or straight”; 1.3% of women and 1.9% of men said they were “homosexual, gay, or lesbian”; 5.5% of women and 2.0% of men said they were bisexual; and 0.9% of women and 1.0% of men said “don’t know” or “refused” (i.e., “did not report”) on sexual orientation."

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't think you know what it means, and it is not a fallacy when the authority is valid.

Correct, did you notice that big "if" there?