Tensions in Venezuela reaching boiling point

[Stevicus]

Venezuela’s Guaidó calls for general strike after clashes leave woman dead, dozens injured

'There's no turning back': Venezuela's Guaido remains defiant after failed attempt to recruit military

“There’s no turning back,” Juan Guaido, opposition leader, said as he addressed thousands of supporters on the streets of Caracas on Wednesday.

The leader of the opposition-controlled National Assembly described the latest wave of anti-government demonstrations as an “irreversible process” and promised to continue protesting every day in order to “achieve freedom.”

Pro-government demonstrations took place at the same time, with rival groups both seeking to project strength at May Day rallies.

Maduro has accused protesters of “serious crimes” that would “not go unpunished.” He also repeated claims that the U.S. was plotting a coup against him.

I wonder how this is going to play out. Is the US plotting a coup against Maduro? What will the Venezuelan military do? Could the US and Russia clash over this? Is Venezuela heading towards civil war? Could this spill over into other countries? Should the US military intervene?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Venezuela’s Guaidó calls for general strike after clashes leave woman dead, dozens injured

'There's no turning back': Venezuela's Guaido remains defiant after failed attempt to recruit military



I wonder how this is going to play out. Is the US plotting a coup against Maduro? What will the Venezuelan military do? Could the US and Russia clash over this? Is Venezuela heading towards civil war? Could this spill over into other countries? Should the US military intervene?

QUOTE] Could the US and Russia clash over this? Is Venezuela heading towards civil war? Could this spill over into other countries? Should the US military intervene?[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised America has stayed out of Venezuela militarily as long as it has

 

[Twilight Hue]

Venezuela’s Guaidó calls for general strike after clashes leave woman dead, dozens injured

'There's no turning back': Venezuela's Guaido remains defiant after failed attempt to recruit military



I wonder how this is going to play out. Is the US plotting a coup against Maduro? What will the Venezuelan military do? Could the US and Russia clash over this? Is Venezuela heading towards civil war? Could this spill over into other countries? Should the US military intervene?

It would probably play out similar to Lybia.

 

[Stevicus]

I'm surprised America has stayed out of Venezuela militarily as long as it has

I think the US has been working behind the scenes, supporting the opposition and possible covert stuff. But a direct military invasion would be difficult to justify. I suppose they could say they're just there for humanitarian reasons - to feed the starving people - that sort of thing. But that would also be on shaky ground.

But if the Russians send troops to help Maduro, that would change the game and create a new sense of urgency for a US response.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I think the US has been working behind the scenes, supporting the opposition and possible covert stuff. But a direct military invasion would be difficult to justify. I suppose they could say they're just there for humanitarian reasons - to feed the starving people - that sort of thing. But that would also be on shaky ground.

But if the Russians send troops to help Maduro, that would change the game and create a new sense of urgency for a US response.

Oh, the US has absolutely been working behind the scenes... and quite openly in front of them, too. I'm talking about direct military action. I had expected it before now. Possibly under the guise of assisting NATO partner Colombia.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I think the US has been working behind the scenes, supporting the opposition and possible covert stuff.

That is a guess, right?

Oh, the US has absolutely been working behind the scenes... and quite openly in front of them, too.

That is also a guess, right?

 

[Augustus]

That is a guess, right?

No.

The US stance towards the Venezuelan government is openly hostile.

 

[ajay0]

I wonder how this is going to play out. Is the US plotting a coup against Maduro? What will the Venezuelan military do? Could the US and Russia clash over this? Is Venezuela heading towards civil war? Could this spill over into other countries? Should the US military intervene?

Seems like a good idea, as there is a lot of oil over there.

 

[sooda]

No.

The US stance towards the Venezuelan government is openly hostile.

Yes it is openly hostile..

Meanwhile, Iran says they are going to destroy OPEC.

 

[sun rise]

The Venezuela utter mess shows that command-and-control economies don't work. It also allows the right to conflate state control of the "means of production" with "democratic socialism", something entirely different.

But we really need to not get involved in that horror show and let the people there deal with it as they will.

 

[Woberts]

Guido is a fraud and a terrorist. Burning trucks of aid and blaming it on Maduro is quite a despicable act. Of course, the "lol socialism bad amirite fellas ?!!?!" narrative will continue. Maduro will be toppled, and the citizens of Venezuela sold into slavery.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Venezuela’s Guaidó calls for general strike after clashes leave woman dead, dozens injured

'There's no turning back': Venezuela's Guaido remains defiant after failed attempt to recruit military



I wonder how this is going to play out. Is the US plotting a coup against Maduro? What will the Venezuelan military do? Could the US and Russia clash over this? Is Venezuela heading towards civil war? Could this spill over into other countries? Should the US military intervene?

As with Korea, Vietnam, all over the Caribbean, Afghanistan, and Iraq, the American rich rulers always seem to find a way to send our poor, disposable, youth in peril's way, you can bet on it. Both China and Russia have been messing about in Venezuela already. I was wondering the other day where we'd go a slaughtering next?

 

[sooda]

Guido is a fraud and a terrorist. Burning trucks of aid and blaming it on Maduro is quite a despicable act. Of course, the "lol socialism bad amirite fellas ?!!?!" narrative will continue. Maduro will be toppled, and the citizens of Venezuela sold into slavery.

I think there is some spite involved on the part of the US. VZ refines Iranian crude because Iran doesn't have enough refineries.

We should have tried to help VZ instead of kicking them when they are down.

 

[Stevicus]

Oh, the US has absolutely been working behind the scenes... and quite openly in front of them, too. I'm talking about direct military action. I had expected it before now. Possibly under the guise of assisting NATO partner Colombia.

I think the US will try to use proxies at first; they won't go in directly unless they absolutely have to. It's not like the old days when we could just roll into Panama, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, or Haiti (or anywhere else in this hemisphere) anytime we wanted to. There are more eyes on us these days than ever before.

I don't think Colombia is a NATO member, although the Organization of American States could do something. I think most of the member states are against Maduro, although I think we may have fouled up some of our relationships due to Trump harping on and on about this wall on the border business. This is an issue where we need OAS support, but by alienating several Latin American countries, they may not be as enthusiastic in supporting us as they otherwise would be.

 

[Stevicus]

That is a guess, right?

Well, yeah, at least as far as presuming covert activity. Although I think it's pretty well a given, considering our history in Latin America and the scope and breadth of our intel and spy networks. However, US support of Guaido is pretty obvious, so there's no guesswork in that.

 

[Stevicus]

Seems like a good idea, as there is a lot of oil over there.

Yeah, it seems that was their main problem. Oil is pretty much all they have as for a revenue-producing commodity. Their entire economy depends solely on the viability of a single product.

If they had gone into the cocaine business, the US government and military would have loved them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

As with Korea, Vietnam, all over the Caribbean, Afghanistan, and Iraq, the American rich rulers always seem to find a way to send our poor, disposable, youth in peril's way, you can bet on it. Both China and Russia have been messing about in Venezuela already. I was wondering the other day where we'd go a slaughtering next?

I do wonder if ever we'll take the guns and grenades out the hands out of the disposable youth fodder and put them in the hands of the politicians who want others to do the killing for them?

 

[Stevicus]

Guido is a fraud and a terrorist. Burning trucks of aid and blaming it on Maduro is quite a despicable act. Of course, the "lol socialism bad amirite fellas ?!!?!" narrative will continue. Maduro will be toppled, and the citizens of Venezuela sold into slavery.

Well Maduro could still hold out for a while. He's been trying to show that the military is fully behind him, but it's hard to tell what kind of hold he actually has.

In the meantime, the people of Venezuela will have to endure whatever hell is going on there at the moment.

I suppose the UN or OAS might be expected to do something at some point - and perhaps they can have another election under neutral supervision. If neither side is willing to make a deal, it could get even worse.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I think the US will try to use proxies at first; they won't go in directly unless they absolutely have to. It's not like the old days when we could just roll into Panama, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, or Haiti (or anywhere else in this hemisphere) anytime we wanted to. There are more eyes on us these days than ever before.

I don't think Colombia is a NATO member, although the Organization of American States could do something. I think most of the member states are against Maduro, although I think we may have fouled up some of our relationships due to Trump harping on and on about this wall on the border business. This is an issue where we need OAS support, but by alienating several Latin American countries, they may not be as enthusiastic in supporting us as they otherwise would be.

It's not a NATO member, it is a NATO partner.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Seems like a good idea, as there is a lot of oil over there.

Yeah, because invading, sorry, "intervening" in oil rich foreign countries has worked so well in the recent past.