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Texas...Actually Illegal To Ask Public Officials Questions If Answers Aren't Already Public

Pogo

Well-Known Member
A journalist asked the wrong question, & got arrested.
The case is heading to SCOTUS.
TX law in short.....
It's illegal to solicit info from a public servant if that info has not been made public.
Sounds like investigative reporting is illegal there.
Not even sure how to respond to this except to remind MAGA's of Putin's arrests of journalists and ask whether they might just see some little parallel in their tiny minds.

Other than than disgust at Americans who have so lost their way.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A journalist asked the wrong question, & got arrested.
The case is heading to SCOTUS.
TX law in short.....
It's illegal to solicit info from a public servant if that info has not been made public.
Sounds like investigative reporting is illegal there.
That's what the courts are for , and besides this was way back in 2017 plus the case itself was dismissed by the state judiciary. There ya go. Justice served.

It's just a lawsuit post dismissal of the case over the arrest itself.
 
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Pogo

Well-Known Member
That's what the courts are for , and besides this was way back in 2017 plus the case itself was dismissed by the state judiciary. There ya go. Justice served.

It's just a lawsuit post dismissal of the case over the arrest itself.
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misdemeanor possession only still in some states.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
A journalist asked the wrong question, & got arrested.
The case is heading to SCOTUS.
TX law in short.....
It's illegal to solicit info from a public servant if that info has not been made public.
Sounds like investigative reporting is illegal there.
I'm just as Peeping Tom looking down from your norther border. I find myself unsurprised at much the Republicans will do. Kinda like finding the secret peep-hole in the fitness club shower -- after a while, you begin to realize they all look pretty much the same.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
A journalist asked the wrong question, & got arrested.
It's clearly more complicated than that, but proponents for either side are trying to present it as simple in their favour.

It seems there is a poorly worded law (which is hardly unique), which could render it unenforceable. The underlying question on principle of whether what this journalist did was legitimate, questionable or wrong depends on details that (somewhat ironically) don't seem to be public.

There will clearly be information that individual officials (especially police officers) shouldn't be sharing with anyone (and especially journalists), and certainly not via private messaging rather than formal lines of communication. Whether the information being sought is something the journalists should have known they weren't meant to know should be the basis of any guilt on their part.

It seems this is going through the correct process to resolve the situation, even if it is unfortunate that it has apparently required going all the way to the Supreme Courts.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's what the courts are for , and besides this was way back in 2017 plus the case itself was dismissed by the state judiciary. There ya go. Justice served.

It's just a lawsuit post dismissal of the case over the arrest itself.
The law is still on the books.
Cops can still arrest reporters for asking questions.
The case is headed to SCOTUS.

Your post seems awfully sanguine about such
an over-reach by government. Do you approve
of the law, see it as merely unenforceable, or
does the law not bother you?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's clearly more complicated than that, but proponents for either side are trying to present it as simple in their favour.
When I preceded my summary with "in short",
I certainly intended to set aside complications.
I expected the interested reader to peruse the
linked article for a fuller understanding.


It seems there is a poorly worded law (which is hardly unique), which could render it unenforceable.
But nonetheless useful to authorities who want to
use the law mischievously to target personal foes.
The underlying question on principle of whether what this journalist did was legitimate, questionable or wrong depends on details that (somewhat ironically) don't seem to be public.
The larger issue is that asking questions
of officials could result in arrest & jail.
Can you imagine a chilling effect, given
all the corruption in government?
There will clearly be information that individual officials (especially police officers) shouldn't be sharing with anyone (and especially journalists), and certainly not via private messaging rather than formal lines of communication. Whether the information being sought is something the journalists should have known they weren't meant to know should be the basis of any guilt on their part.
If officials & cops are improperly divulging sensitive
information, wouldn't they be the criminals, rather
than the reporter asking for it? All they need to do
is say "No comment".
But that's government for ya....civilians are the ones
who go to jail. Not those who run government.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
It's clearly more complicated than that, but proponents for either side are trying to present it as simple in their favour.

It seems there is a poorly worded law (which is hardly unique), which could render it unenforceable. The underlying question on principle of whether what this journalist did was legitimate, questionable or wrong depends on details that (somewhat ironically) don't seem to be public.

There will clearly be information that individual officials (especially police officers) shouldn't be sharing with anyone (and especially journalists), and certainly not via private messaging rather than formal lines of communication. Whether the information being sought is something the journalists should have known they weren't meant to know should be the basis of any guilt on their part.

It seems this is going through the correct process to resolve the situation, even if it is unfortunate that it has apparently required going all the way to the Supreme Courts.
If you are speaking of current US law that is sufficiently poorly worded that it may require SC adjudication, then it might be useful to present some information for us to analyze or are we dealing with an example that would be more typical of current Russian law?

My reading of the OP article is that asking a question is soliciting? Would you like to **** me for %100 is in our prudish society is soliciting, but asking someone if they would provide information that they are not supposed too? Uh, that failure is normally considered to be on the information providers part.

What am I missing here. Another idiotic Texan attempt to make legal **** up? what actual principle is in question that needs SC clarification.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
When I preceded my summary with "in short",
I certainly intended to set aside complications.
I expected the interested reader to peruse the
linked article for a fuller understanding.



But nonetheless useful to authorities who want to
use the law mischievously to target personal foes.

The larger issue is that asking questions
of officials could result in arrest & jail.
Can you imagine a chilling effect, given
all the corruption in government?

If officials & cops are improperly divulging sensitive
information, wouldn't they be the criminals, rather
than the reporter asking for it? All they need to do
is say "No comment".
But that's government for ya....civilians are the ones
who go to jail. Not those who run government.
Honest Yahoo, or is this one of the media specialists pointed out today that are variously former Trump advisers and Russian disinformation providers who took over an Australian website?
Will look further for the link,
 
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