Thanksgiving as a day of Mourning

[Kapalika]

While you may disagree, (and you have every right to do so), I see the purpose of this thread as to shame anyone who celebrates the holiday.

I see it as unfair to dump political propaganda on a holiday tradition.

*facepalm*

If you cared to note even some of the links had native Americans who also celebrated it as a day to be thankful as well as mourn. I even said that people talking about what they are thankful for isn't necessarily missing the point.

 

[BSM1]

How ignorant. Do you really think they are not being screwed over today?

Besides the other poster bringing up this, I found all this pretty quickly:

5 Ways The Government Keeps Native Americans In Poverty
Trump challenges Native Americans’ historical standing
Native Americans' sovereignty is at risk, and the high court must help save it | Stephen Pevar
https://psmag.com/social-justice/fo...ression-in-north-dakota-is-only-the-beginning
Republicans wanted to suppress the Native American vote. It's working | Julian Brave NoiseCat
Judge allows North Dakota Republicans to stop some Native Americans from voting
4 Ways We Screwed Over Native Americans (And Still Are)

As said, at 1:22

"Because it's still going on."

It isn't a massacre, but it's the erasure of a people and their voice.

Anyone can choose to be a victim if they want to be.

 

[Revoltingest]

"Nah, I think only our white version and perspective should be considered."

Ironic....at my Turkey Day dinner, I'll be the only "white" person.

 

[BSM1]

Ironic....at my Turkey Day dinner, I'll be the only "white" person.

What? I figured you for a leg man...

 

[Revoltingest]

What? I figured you for a leg man...

Aye, the drumstick is the ultimate.....you rascal!

Looking over my family history, there are many things to mourn.
And many other groups here & around the world have endured suffering & loss.
But criminy, it's harmful to continually live a life with that weltanschauung.
If one can move past it, one is better off seeking the positive.
Turkey Day is a good opportunity to consider that.

 

[BSM1]

Aye, the drumstick is the ultimate.....you rascal!

Hahaha...thought so...

 

[wandering peacefully]

To quote a well known leftie "What possible difference can it make now?".

If I took the time to explain why it matters now would it make any difference in your views?

 

[BSM1]

If I took the time to explain why it matters now would it make any difference in your views?

Absolutely not...time to move on and quit playing the victim card. Were the native Americans wronged? Probably. Were they conquered? Yes (happens to indigenous people throughout history), Can any of this history be changed? Nope. Are the indigenous folks of North America going to get a) their land back, b) their culture back, c) a better portrayal in Hollywood movies? The answer is almost definitely no. I'm not trying to be insensitive here (my great-great grandmother was full blooded Black Foot), but the world changes and sometimes the past has to be the past.

 

[YmirGF]

Absolutely not...time to move on and quit playing the victim card. Were the native Americans wronged? Probably. Were they conquered? Yes (happens to indigenous people throughout history), Can any of this history be changed? Nope. Are the indigenous folks of North America going to get a) their land back, b) their culture back, c) a better portrayal in Hollywood movies? The answer is almost definitely no. I'm not trying to be insensitive here (my great-great grandmother was full blooded Black Foot), but the world changes and sometimes the past has to be the past.

So, you a more native American than Elizabeth Warren! Bonus! (Mind you, who isn't?)

 

[BSM1]

Well, then you are describing the same thing I did. Even if it isn't intentional it's still missing the point of my topic, which was for us to consider the Native American perspective. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th are just making excuses for why we shouldn't bother to even consider it, even when these people are a huge part of the story and attach so much mourning to it and still do due to what is even going on today. It's the irony that shocks me, more than anything.

My point was that even today it's a day of mourning because they are still being screwed over. I forgot about it but just saw mention of it on facebook;

hhttps://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/south-dakota/articles/2018-04-07/pipeline-spill-in-south-dakota-twice-as-big-as-first-thought

So we still steal their land, but of course it's today so it was over oil. You know they wanted to bulldoze through sacred burial grounds? I can't recall if they did or not, but either way it's still messed up.

Keystone pipeline's path cuts across Native American land, history

Native Americans Protest Keystone XL Pipeline Because They Know What It Represents

Take notes @BSM1 this is all that oppression I was saying is still happening.

Nonsense. Not even close to oppression..

 

[BSM1]

So, you a more native American than Elizabeth Warren! Bonus! (Mind you, who isn't?)

I plan on using this if I ever run for Prez..

 

[wandering peacefully]

Absolutely not...time to move on and quit playing the victim card. Were the native Americans wronged? Probably. Were they conquered? Yes (happens to indigenous people throughout history), Can any of this history be changed? Nope. Are the indigenous folks of North America going to get a) their land back, b) their culture back, c) a better portrayal in Hollywood movies? The answer is almost definitely no. I'm not trying to be insensitive here (my great-great grandmother was full blooded Black Foot), but the world changes and sometimes the past has to be the past.