That's it! I'm calling it. Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic nominee in 2016.

[Midnight Rain]

Actually the second point is that Drudge readers who respond to drudgy polls don't reflect electorate. It is like asking shivafan for an opinion.
Tom

Perhaps but why is it that almost every single internet poll has sanders above Hillary?

 

[Politesse]

Perhaps but why is it that almost every single internet poll has sanders above Hillary?

Because Hillary voters have to call their grandkids to get their computers to work.

 

[columbus]

Perhaps but why is it that almost every single internet poll has sanders above Hillary?

Because the Clinton's are smart like a snake. They won't expend political capital battling people Matt Drudge will fight for them.
Tom

 

[Midnight Rain]

Because Hillary voters have to call their grandkids to get their computers to work.

This is partly true.

Because the Clinton's are smart like a snake. They won't expend political capital battling people Matt Drudge will fight for them.
Tom

There is a certain aspect to that. However there is evidence showing that the showcasing of the asses party attempting to crown a queen despite the thoughts of the people.

 

[Underhill]

I think the whole Sanders thing is real. Republicans have spent so much time and money tearing Clinton apart that many, even some in the party, are sick of her. It may backfire on them though. I think at this point Sanders would be much harder for Republicans to beat than Clinton.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think the whole Sanders thing is real. Republicans have spent so much time and money tearing Clinton apart that many, even some in the party, are sick of her. It may backfire on them though. I think at this point Sanders would be much harder for Republicans to beat than Clinton.

I don't think she needed any Republican help to become undesirable.

 

[Underhill]

I don't think she needed any Republican help to become undesirable.

I think she did. She's shifted positions a few times, but no more than McCain or Obama. Going all the way back to the early 90's the amount of fire aimed at first her husband, and then her, is unprecedented.

How many politicians do you know that were consistently under fire for 25 years straight?

 

[Revoltingest]

I think she did. She's shifted positions a few times, but no more than McCain or Obama. Going all the way back to the early 90's the amount of fire aimed at first her husband, and then her, is unprecedented.
How many politicians do you know that were consistently under fire for 25 years straight?

I don't think inconsistency is her major problem.
It's her Nixonesque quality.....a kind of untrustworthy low potential high achiever tyrant.
I half expect her to say.....

 

[metis]

I think the whole Sanders thing is real. Republicans have spent so much time and money tearing Clinton apart that many, even some in the party, are sick of her. It may backfire on them though. I think at this point Sanders would be much harder for Republicans to beat than Clinton.

Yes, but the question I have is whether Sanders can keep the momentum going into the convention and then the election. He's hot right now, and momentum, like in sports, is very important, but can he sustain it?

You know that the Pubs will go after him on the "socialist" issue, and it probably won't be too long before we'll see them portraying the hammer & sickle over Sanders' picture. Ya gotta admit, the Pubs are good at fear-mongering.

 

[Underhill]

Yes, but the question I have is whether Sanders can keep the momentum going into the convention and then the election. He's hot right now, and momentum, like in sports, is very important, but can he sustain it?

You know that the Pubs will go after him on the "socialist" issue, and it probably won't be too long before we'll see them portraying the hammer & sickle over Sanders' picture. Ya gotta admit, the Pubs are good at fear-mongering.

People have been asking the momentum question since he started running and there is no sign of it letting up now.

As for the socialist issue, I think it all depends on who Bernie is running against. If it's Trump, he has this. If it is a moderate republican he may struggle. But I think the same is true of Clinton.

 

[Underhill]

I don't think inconsistency is her major problem.
It's her Nixonesque quality.....a kind of untrustworthy low potential high achiever tyrant.
I half expect her to say.....

Sure, but where does that impression come from if not from the fact that her husband and her have been investigated more than any political couple in history?

 

[metis]

People have been asking the momentum question since he started running and there is no sign of it letting up now.

As for the socialist issue, I think it all depends on who Bernie is running against. If it's Trump, he has this. If it is a moderate republican he may struggle. But I think the same is true of Clinton.

It's still a long time until November, and that's a long time to keep people enthused. But don't get me wrong on this, I'm voting for Sanders in the primary here.

Clinton has two big problems, with one being she's "old news" and the other with questions about her honesty. In today's day & age, these are two huge obstacles, so I don't think Nate Silver is likely to be on target with his prediction of a Clinton victory at the convention. But then, isn't it rather presumptuous for me to question him with his record of success.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure, but where does that impression come from if not from the fact that her husband and her have been investigated more than any political couple in history?

She creates her own public persona.
Certainly riding on the coattails of a philandering boor doesn't help.
But even when I've asked fans why they support her, it always boils
down to keeping crazy Republicans out of the White House.
I can understand that motive, but it means her primary quality is being not Republican.
So when she has to campaign against a more inspiring & trustworthy Bernie, she gots
nuthin but the pesudo-progressive chance to put a woman's finger on the red button.

 

[Underhill]

She creates her own public persona.
Certainly riding on the coattails of a philandering boor doesn't help.
But even when I've asked fans why they support her, it always boils
down to keeping crazy Republicans out of the White House.
I can understand that motive, but it means her primary quality is being not Republican.
So when she has to campaign against a more inspiring & trustworthy Bernie, she gots
nuthin but the pesudo-progressive chance to put a woman's finger on the red button.

I just can't think of anything she has really done wrong. I get what you are saying, but I've watched her closely for a long time now (she was our senator after all) and I just don't see it. I think a lot of men don't like her because of her no nonsense attitude but when it comes to policy and how she performed her job, whether in the Senate or as SoS, she always seemed to perform reasonably well.

I also think the smear campaign can't help but have an impact, it's either that or just the fact that she is a woman. But when I ask co-workers why they hate her, virtually to a man they all say the same thing. "I just don't like her." As a reason for not voting for someone that seems pretty weak. I wouldn't have been able to vote in half the elections if I had to like the candidates.

 

[Revoltingest]

I just can't think of anything she has really done wrong. I get what you are saying, but I've watched her closely for a long time now (she was our senator after all) and I just don't see it. I think a lot of men don't like her because of her no nonsense attitude but when it comes to policy and how she performed her job, whether in the Senate or as SoS, she always seemed to perform reasonably well.
I also think the smear campaign can't help but have an impact, it's either that or just the fact that she is a woman. But when I ask co-workers why they hate her, virtually to a man they all say the same thing. "I just don't like her." As a reason for not voting for someone that seems pretty weak. I wouldn't have been able to vote in half the elections if I had to like the candidates.

Clearly, she must have some detriments, otherwise why would
so many in her own party prefer the weird old firebrand from VT?
To blame the other party for this downturn is unconvincing.

 

[Underhill]

Clearly, she must have some detriments, otherwise why would
so many in her own party prefer the weird old firebrand from VT?
To blame the other party for this downturn is unconvincing.

Normally, I might agree with you. But I think with enough time the opposition has achieved their goal... Remember, they don't have to sway the entire democratic party. That would be a lost cause.

If they even manage to dis-way 10% of the party, probably those at the fringes (moderates who voted for Reagan), it could have a devastating affect.

 

[Revoltingest]

Normally, I might agree with you. But I think with enough time the opposition has achieved their goal... Remember, they don't have to sway the entire democratic party. That would be a lost cause.

If they even manage to dis-way 10% of the party, probably those at the fringes (moderates who voted for Reagan), it could have a devastating affect.

I just don't think the Republicans are competent enuf to pull off such a scheme.
Tell me....do you find Hillary to be an inspiring candidate?
How about compared to Bernie?

 

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

Democrats are just trying to make it look like they are being democratic.
Hillary was designated heir to the throne, but the Republicans with a much
more transparent and dynamic process were stealing the limelight.

So now the democrats are trying to make it look like Sanders actually has a chance.

 

[Underhill]

I just don't think the Republicans are competent enuf to pull off such a scheme.
Tell me....do you find Hillary to be an inspiring candidate?
How about compared to Bernie?

Inspiring... tough thing to measure. On a scale that ranges from Walt Mondale to Obama or Reagan on the other end, I would put her mid pack. Bernie, while he is not the traditional inspiring candidate, what he is saying is really resonating. So all things considered, I would rank him above Clinton by a bit.

 

[Revoltingest]

Inspiring... tough thing to measure. On a scale that ranges from Walt Mondale to Obama or Reagan on the other end, I would put her mid pack. Bernie, while he is not the traditional inspiring candidate, what he is saying is really resonating. So all things considered, I would rank him above Clinton by a bit.

I'd rank him relatively higher, but either way, this seems the best explanation for his beating the anointed one.