The alarming call for the blasphemy law in Britain and threat to free speech.

[Estro Felino]

God is a poop head. I blasphemed. Come lock me up.

As a Christian, I defend your right to say it.

Because I couldn't care less what others think of my God.

 

[Estro Felino]

As for "desecration of holy texts", if someone owns a Bible and destroys it publicly... they have the right to do that.
Because that's what property is. Being entitled to do anything with something one owns.

 

[Wandering Monk]

What effing century is this that a person can be prosecuted for blasphemy, in a democracy no less. I guess it is true: no one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I think I've pretty much always been an advocate of free speech here in america. I don't have many thoughts about it presently for your thread, because I'm not really thinking much about it at the moment, but I think that criticism can be subjective: those that happen to have power, don't like being criticized, and would sometimes prefer you direct criticism to those who simply don't happen to have it.

 

[LuisDantas]

Criticism: Your/his/her attire is not appropriate for this occasion.
Denigration: Your/his/her kind is not appropriate for this occasion.

Kind of attire? Of people? Of doctrine? What of?

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Of course any criminal damage of property or possessions should be illegal and so should hate speech and inciting violence which we already have laws for, we don’t need a blasphemy law.

Right, we already have hate crime laws, laws against criminal damage, against threats to kill, against arson, against harassment etc
Now Tariq wants laws protecting the ghosts of “prophets” ? What laws does he actually want? I want to know the specifics?

 

[Viker]

On the news this morning they are saying they are not considering a blasphemy law,

That's good. Britain, somebody on the planet, needs to hold itself together and not go down the rabbit hole if insanity (unlike here).

 

[England my lionheart]

That's good. Britain, somebody on the planet, needs to hold itself together and not go down the rabbit hole if insanity (unlike here).

They are still considering an Islamophobia law though,November was “Islamophobia” month here,wtf and why,it’s either free speech or it’s not,there should be no exceptions imo.

 

[England my lionheart]

Right, we already have hate crime laws, laws against criminal damage, against threats to kill, against arson, against harassment etc
Now Tariq wants laws protecting the ghosts of “prophets” ? What laws does he actually want? I want to know the specifics?

This is the problem for Labour,Islam is not a race,it’s an ideology but they want to be the result of racism and try as they can they can’t…..yet.

 

[Viker]

They are still considering an Islamophobia law though,November was “Islamophobia” month here,wtf and why,it’s either free speech or it’s not,there should be no exceptions imo.

If there's already hate crime laws on the books I don't see a need for redundancy in law. Keep us posted and I'll look into it myself.

 

[England my lionheart]

If there's already hate crime laws on the books I don't see a need for redundancy in law. Keep us posted and I'll look into it myself.

I will,we’re living in crazy times,atm the Supreme Court is judging on “the definition of a woman “,I’ve never in my whole life struggled with that,I already knew what a women was.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Labour MP Tariq Ali asked: ‘Will the Prime Minister commit to introducing measures to prohibit the desecration of all religious texts and the prophets of the Abrahamic religions?’

Down that road lies hell, as can be seen in Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and other theocracies. That MP's suggestion should be resoundingly and thoroughly condemned as a dangerous proposal that has no place whatsoever being implemented in a secular state that has religious freedom.

The fact that he only specified Abrahamic religions says enough by itself, too. Not only would such a law be as arbitrary as all other blasphemy laws are but it would also be imbued with religious supremacism and selectivity.

 

[England my lionheart]

Down that road lies hell, as can be seen in Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and other theocracies. That MP's suggestion should be resoundingly and thoroughly condemned as a dangerous proposal that has no place whatsoever being implemented in a secular state that has religious freedom.

The fact that he only specified Abrahamic religions says enough by itself, too. Not only would such a law be as arbitrary as all other blasphemy laws are but it would also be imbued with religious supremacism and selectivity.

Exactly,there’s no growth without pruning imo.

 

[England my lionheart]

Why do you Brits keep following the U.S. down into the abysmal rabbit hole of idiocy? Why can't you look at us and think; "well, we sure don't want to do THAT!"?

Do we?,I doubt that we follow America but I would suggest we both agree on free speech.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

This is the problem for Labour,Islam is not a race,it’s an ideology but they want to be the result of racism and try as they can they can’t…..yet.

Can you imagine if they outlawed “femalephobia” …. Sunnah done for.
Sometimes in life you just have to grow a pair, init

 

[England my lionheart]

Can you imagine if they outlawed “femalephobia” …. Sunnah done for.
Sometimes in life you just have to grow a pair, init

For most of us it’s true brah

 

[oldbadger]

After this

Labour realised that no amount of alphabetical olympics could make it racism,still,today in parliament a call for blasphemy laws to be reinstated at PMQs,Labour MP Tariq Ali asked: ‘Will the Prime Minister commit to introducing measures to prohibit the desecration of all religious texts and the prophets of the Abrahamic religions?’.

Errrm no mention of Bhuddist , Hindus , Shinto etc , why is that?.

Starmer ‘Desecration is awful, and we are committed to tackling all forms of hatred and division, including Islamophobia.’

The Spectator
Desecration is, of course, a powerful emotion. It is a deeply engrained transgression that is a common feature of multiple times and cultures. Indeed, such is the visceral reaction to desecration that for many centuries there were laws on the British statute book banning people from denying the truth of Christianity.

The Spectator ,great article btw Why is a Labour MP calling for a blasphemy law?

Nothing is sacred,challenging questioning or criticising an idea is free speech and a precious right,agree?.

Maybe they have the breaking, damaging, obscuring, painting over or signing over religious notices, gravestones, religious places?

If so I hope that perpetrators get more heavy sentences.

 

[England my lionheart]

Maybe they have the breaking, damaging, obscuring, painting over or signing over religious notices, gravestones, religious places?

If so I hope that perpetrators get more heavy sentences.

Which is already covered by law.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Maybe they have the breaking, damaging, obscuring, painting over or signing over religious notices, gravestones, religious places?

If so I hope that perpetrators get more heavy sentences.

I actually wish sexual abusers got heavier prison sentences
But you know we are dealing with understaffed, overstretched and underpaid police and lack of prison cells currently, yet Tariq wants to add to that by getting people arrested for saying mean things about dead people

 

[England my lionheart]

I actually wish sexual abusers got heavier prison sentences
But you know we are dealing with understaffed, overstretched and underpaid police and lack of prison cells currently, yet Tariq wants to add to that by getting people arrested for saying mean things about dead people

Rapists and paedophiles are as bad if not worse than a murderer imo but our government prefers to let them roam the streets to make room for people who only use words.