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The answer is a communist party

Anthem

Active Member
That's it. They need a communist party in US.

What else could turn things around for the real people (not the internet trolls)?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's it. They need a communist party in US.

What else could turn things around for the real people (not the internet trolls)?
Already got it.....
Communist Party USA
Their slogan.....
"New & improved killing fields for the 21st century!"


Hard to believe, but there's a goofball political party
which gets even fewer votes than the Libertarian Party.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Like, it's there. People just need to vote for it and then it'll be on the field.

Why put your hope in political party system, rather than grassroots social transformation?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
That's it. They need a communist party in US.

What else could turn things around for the real people (not the internet trolls)?

The only reason it would be needed is because the Democrats don't have anyone like FDR anymore. FDR did more to save this country from communism (and boost capitalism) than a thousand Joe McCarthys, yet capitalists never really appreciated it. They want to undo everything FDR did to make America great, and that will be the road to communism.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
In theory Communism should work. BUT inevitably the leaders of the country abuse their powers hence it fails.
 

Sanzbir

Well-Known Member
In theory Communism should work. BUT inevitably the leaders of the country abuse their powers hence it fails.

Having read Marx, I disagree. His theories are flawed, and his idea of where value comes from doesn't gel with reality. It was doomed to failure from the beginning, even if the impossible happened and they had virtuous leaders.
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
In theory Communism should work. BUT inevitably the leaders of the country abuse their powers hence it fails.
Whoops! I think you isolated the problem.

No plan will succeed if its executed by people who are corrupt, incompetent or both.
 

Anthem

Active Member
Having read Marx, I disagree. His theories are flawed, and his idea of where value comes from doesn't gel with reality. It was doomed to failure from the beginning, even if the impossible happened and they had virtuous leaders.
Explain please - about marx. Why flawed????
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Having read Marx, I disagree. His theories are flawed, and his idea of where value comes from doesn't gel with reality. It was doomed to failure from the beginning, even if the impossible happened and they had virtuous leaders.
Where does value come from in your opinion?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No plan will succeed if its executed by people who are corrupt, incompetent or both.
Au contraire!
Americastan's system has been running semi-smoothly for a couple centuries.
It's more capable of surviving corruption & incompetence than many others,
having even survived good intentions.
 

Anthem

Active Member
Au contraire!
Americastan's system has been running semi-smoothly for a couple centuries.
It's more capable of surviving corruption & incompetence than many others,
having even survived good intentions.
I don't see that. Didn't see that.:confused:
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Au contraire!
Americastan's system has been running semi-smoothly for a couple centuries.
It's more capable of surviving corruption & incompetence than many others,
having even survived good intentions.
The only good thing about the American system is that it made a dictatorship virtually impossible. But it did so at the cost of creating a decision-making model that only functions well in a crisis. So, if it doesn't have one, it creates it. Example: making a decision on the budget.
 
Freemium and Corporate should provide everyone with something...with like fair game (the walk of life stays fun)(monopolies)(government runs unions of the factories of culture e.g 1 razor is sold in stores and scientists compete to have the design patent with the government) 1 way to do everything no diversity with-in categories.
 
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