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The Antichrist and Revelation

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
I had a few (several) questions that probably have no answers. Here I go:

1.) Could Bush be the antichrist? In FFH's thread on Obama being the antichrist, I saw it being mentioned that the antichrist would promise "peace and security" before coming to his destruction, and Bush definitely promised peace and security while bringing destruction... Bush's "fatal wound" could be the hatred that is directed towards him now, and his recovery could be coming back into the political scene and taking over the country once again (probably not legally, as he's already had two terms).

2.) Is there actually an "antichrist"? I don't remember the word being mentioned in the Bible. If so, is the antichrist actually a person, or could it be an organization or nation?

3.) Is the beast literally a beast with all the traits described in revelation, or does it represent something?

4.) EVERYONE knows about the whole 666 deal. How the heck is the antichrist going to pull this off?

5.) Will the Christians be the only ones to revolt against the beast? I just can't see devout Hindus and Budhists worshipping the beast, and a hardcore atheist wouldn't want to be worshipping anything.

6.) Is the 666 number only dangerous on the forehead and hand? For instance, my old chemistry teacher's locker number at the Y is 616 (some versions of the Bible read 616 instead of 666), and the date I joined eRepublik (browser game) just happens to be day 666 of the game... will these be problems?

7.) Why are the 144000 people from the tribes of Israel mentioned separately from the rest of the population from heaven (Chapter 7 of revelation).

8.) Are there any clues suggesting when the Revelation will actually happen? Every single generation has thought it would definitely happen in their lifetime (and of course, they were wrong).

9.) What's the story about the woman and the dragon (Chapter 12) supposed to be about?

10.) Will the antichrist know that he's the antichrist? Will the antichrist claim to be Christian?

11.) What the heck makes Satan think he is any match for God?

12.) What of people who don't know God and don't worship the beast? Is the mark of the beast necessary for a ticket to hell, or will they go to hell anyway, despite fighting against the beast even though they are not Christian? Surely there are non-Christians with the good sense to fight against an evil New World Order (ie, anybody who believes in conspiracy theories, anyone with a conscience, etc).

13.) Are the antichrist and the beast one and the same?
 

lockyfan

Active Member
I had a few (several) questions that probably have no answers. Here I go:

1.) Could Bush be the antichrist? In FFH's thread on Obama being the antichrist, I saw it being mentioned that the antichrist would promise "peace and security" before coming to his destruction, and Bush definitely promised peace and security while bringing destruction... Bush's "fatal wound" could be the hatred that is directed towards him now, and his recovery could be coming back into the political scene and taking over the country once again (probably not legally, as he's already had two terms).

There are several things that make up the Antichrist, it is not just one thing.
1. World Governments
2. Apostates and leaders of false worship

He being the former leader of a World Government yes he was part of the antichrist, but now is Obama and any world leader.


2.) Is there actually an "antichrist"? I don't remember the word being mentioned in the Bible. If so, is the antichrist actually a person, or could it be an organization or nation?

As I said before it is a mix of things

3.) Is the beast literally a beast with all the traits described in revelation, or does it represent something?
The Wild beast represents something

4.) EVERYONE knows about the whole 666 deal. How the heck is the antichrist going to pull this off?

You are either marked by one or the other. Depending on what side you choose to follow God or Satan. If you are marked with 666, it is satan branding you as one of his people. Whether you know it or not. There is however a way of getting rid of that branding before it starts to sear into yuor skin and that is learning, living and teaching the truth about God

5.) Will the Christians be the only ones to revolt against the beast? I just can't see devout Hindus and Budhists worshipping the beast, and a hardcore atheist wouldn't want to be worshipping anything.

Anyone who is not fully worshipping God is worshipping ht wild beast. SO yes Hindus and Budhists are, but are not doing so deliberately. They just have not recieved the truth about Jehovah yet

6.) Is the 666 number only dangerous on the forehead and hand? For instance, my old chemistry teacher's locker number at the Y is 616 (some versions of the Bible read 616 instead of 666), and the date I joined eRepublik (browser game) just happens to be day 666 of the game... will these be problems?

Gods people are marked on their forehead and hand by God, therefore Satan uses the mark of 666 in the same way. In his own perverted sick and twisted way.

7.) Why are the 144000 people from the tribes of Israel mentioned separately from the rest of the population from heaven (Chapter 7 of revelation).
Because they are actually the only people who go to heaven. Everyone else has a paradise on earth to live on which was the purpose for hte earth all along, just that satan decided that he could do things better than God. We can see where that has lead us.

8.) Are there any clues suggesting when the Revelation will actually happen? Every single generation has thought it would definitely happen in their lifetime (and of course, they were wrong).
Matthew 24 Luke 21 Mark 13 and 2 Timothy 3:1-5 all show we are living in the last days, also show that what revelation talks about is happening.

The world around us when youu compare these scriptures then revelation and we see that things are coming to a head in this generation definately

9.) What's the story about the woman and the dragon (Chapter 12) supposed to be about?
This ties in with hte First ever prophesy made in the bible at Genesis 3:16. The Woman is Gods heavenly organisation. The Dragon is Satan.
The child given birth to is Jesus (his human incarnation as he was actually the Archangel Michael before he became the Christ) and it is said in Genesis that he will be "bruised in the heel (thus crippled for a while) but that he will bruise satan in the head (completly destroy him, which is soething that is to happen later in revelation)
So Satans threat to destroy Jesus came to no avail because we know that he being Michael sends satan to the earth (thus the third of hte stars being dragged with him is the angels that turned against God and followed him)

10.) Will the antichrist know that he's the antichrist? Will the antichrist claim to be Christian?
Again the antichrist is a collection of things, but are all controled by the ruler of this system which they may not know that they are. The ruler of this system of things is Satan
11.) What the heck makes Satan think he is any match for God?
Pride and a desire to rule

12.) What of people who don't know God and don't worship the beast? Is the mark of the beast necessary for a ticket to hell, or will they go to hell anyway, despite fighting against the beast even though they are not Christian? Surely there are non-Christians with the good sense to fight against an evil New World Order (ie, anybody who believes in conspiracy theories, anyone with a conscience, etc).
There is only two sides. Everyone is given the chance to know God. He has people all over hte world proclaiming hte glorious Good News of hte kingdom, people just dont want to listen or choose not to listen to that particular group of people, because well, they think we are a cult. Yet everything we follow is a direct law or has a direct link to a principle from Jehovah God.

So to answer this question I will give you a scripture 2 Thes 1:6-9 This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for YOU, but, to YOU who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength,

13.) Are the antichrist and the beast one and the same?
The Wild Beast isp art ofhte Antichrist but not hte only part

I hope that this has helped you and i hope you understand the answers I have put forward and that they are the answers yuo were looking for.
 
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T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
The Wild beast represents something
But what? A leader? A weapon of mass destruction or a machine? A nation?
You are either marked by one or the other. Depending on what side you choose to follow God or Satan. If you are marked with 666, it is satan branding you as one of his people. Whether you know it or not. There is however a way of getting rid of that branding before it starts to sear into yuor skin and that is learning, living and teaching the truth about God
What of those who do not know God yet refuse the mark of the beast? Is the mark of the beast an actual, physical mark, or is it something spiritual, or is it something like the verichip? If it's an actual, physical mark that everyone could recognize, no one in their right mind would accept it.
Gods people are marked on their forehead and hand by God, therefore Satan uses the mark of 666 in the same way. In his own perverted sick and twisted way.
That doesn't answer the question, but ok... Do we know what God's mark looks like?
Because they are actually the only people who go to heaven. Everyone else has a paradise on earth to live on which was the purpose for hte earth all along, just that satan decided that he could do things better than God. We can see where that has lead us.
It mentions that all of the 144000 are virgins and are from Israel. Do you therefore have to be virgin and Jewish to go to heaven? And therefore sleeping with women, even one's wife, is an imperfection? And that Jews are still considered special among the races, despite the New Testament specifically teaching otherwise? I don't get it =/.
Pride and a desire to rule
I have a desire to rule and yet I still understand that God would own me if we ever went against eachother o_O. Wasn't Satan blessed with wisdom and cleverness second only to God? Shouldn't he, being a genius, know that 666 < 777? Satan confuses me o_O.
Yet everything we follow is a direct law or has a direct link to a principle from Jehovah God.
Assuming by "we" you mean Christians in general, this could hardly be farther from the truth. Christians have added a lot of man-made traditions in place of God's law, and in the dark ages, the Catholics even edited and cut parts out of the Bible. For example, some Christians (particularly catholics) will worship the image of Mary, even though that is specifically against the commandments. And then there's the hypocrisy and cherrypicking - many Christians defend the passage speaking against homosexuality with all their hearts (I forget where it is, it's somewhere in Paul's letters), yet whenever I point out 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, they either go silent or try to explain how it's no longer relevant to today's culture (for the record, I don't go by that passage, I personally find much of what Paul says to be self-contradictory and frequently against the teachings of Jesus). Some Christians also believe that dancing is wrong, and that enjoying sex with your spouse is wrong, yet I do not see where they got those ideas from the Bible.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
1.) Could Bush be the antichrist? In FFH's thread on Obama being the antichrist, I saw it being mentioned that the antichrist would promise "peace and security" before coming to his destruction, and Bush definitely promised peace and security while bringing destruction... Bush's "fatal wound" could be the hatred that is directed towards him now, and his recovery could be coming back into the political scene and taking over the country once again (probably not legally, as he's already had two terms).
Too much hollywood will ruin anyone's perception of reality.

2.) Is there actually an "antichrist"? I don't remember the word being mentioned in the Bible. If so, is the antichrist actually a person, or could it be an organization or nation? See number 1 answer.
The bible is not concerned with governments and physical things. It is a spiritual book, and the idea/concept of anti-Christ is defined in the word itself. Anything or person that opposes what Christ stands for. As such there are many anti-Christs, it is mentioned several times in the bible.

3.) Is the beast literally a beast with all the traits described in revelation, or does it represent something?
No it is symbolic, and just another representation of Satan and his minions.
4.) EVERYONE knows about the whole 666 deal. How the heck is the antichrist going to pull this off?
It is silly to think there is one anti-Christ other than Satan. Satan will continue to influence people and make them part of the concept/idea of anti-Christ, but there is no Bush, or Obama, Nero, Caesar, single main anti-Christ. That concept just sells really bad National Geographic and History channel shows, and other useless books people write.
5.) Will the Christians be the only ones to revolt against the beast? I just can't see devout Hindus and Budhists worshipping the beast, and a hardcore atheist wouldn't want to be worshipping anything.
Are you just trolling here or being serious???

7.) Why are the 144000 people from the tribes of Israel mentioned separately from the rest of the population from heaven (Chapter 7 of revelation).
There are 12 tribes, and in the book of revelation it mentions 12,000 from each tribe will be in heaven, which is symbolic that all those that are meant to be saved will be saved. 12x12,000 = 144.000.
8.) Are there any clues suggesting when the Revelation will actually happen? Every single generation has thought it would definitely happen in their lifetime (and of course, they were wrong).
Most of it has already happened. May 21st 2011, the world will end.

9.) What's the story about the woman and the dragon (Chapter 12) supposed to be about?
This story depicts the birth of Jesus, and that after JEsus was caught back up to heaven, the women which symbolizes the spiritual body of the church, was left to contend with the dragon (satan)until Jesus returns.

10.) Will the antichrist know that he's the antichrist? Will the antichrist claim to be Christian?
Already addressed

11.) What the heck makes Satan think he is any match for God?
No one knows...
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
Are you just trolling here or being serious???
This is the only part of your post that doesn't make sense.

I don't get what gave you the impression that I wasn't serious. How would satan get an atheist, who worships nothing, to worship him or take his mark, let alone believe in him? Who will satan's minions be?
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
This is the only part of your post that doesn't make sense.

I don't get what gave you the impression that I wasn't serious. How would satan get an atheist, who worships nothing, to worship him or take his mark, let alone believe in him? Who will satan's minions be?
Why would Satan be concerned with those whom he already has led astray from the truth?

The mark is conceptual, there is no physical mark. To deny Christ and what he stands for, is what Atheist already do, so what more does satan need to do to them?
 

lockyfan

Active Member
But what? A leader? A weapon of mass destruction or a machine? A nation?
The UN.

What of those who do not know God yet refuse the mark of the beast? Is the mark of the beast an actual, physical mark, or is it something spiritual, or is it something like the verichip? If it's an actual, physical mark that everyone could recognize, no one in their right mind would accept it.That doesn't answer the question, but ok... Do we know what God's mark looks like?
Every human is given the opportuninty many times over to get to know God, so if you chose to either ignore, or not listen to God and the good news that is spread about him daily by faithful christians who go door to door telling us all the good news, then you will receive the brand of the wild beast.

Those who refuse to be marked by the Wild Beast are often ridiculed maligned and come under attack by many people in the world. They are persecuted by religious leaders and locked up on a whim. Also they are outlawed in some countries.

Everyone else is branded with the mark of the wild beast.

It mentions that all of the 144000 are virgins and are from Israel. Do you therefore have to be virgin and Jewish to go to heaven? And therefore sleeping with women, even one's wife, is an imperfection? And that Jews are still considered special among the races, despite the New Testament specifically teaching otherwise? I don't get it =/.
Not so much virgins from not having sex. More like virgins in that they are undefiled by the world. Gods people are "no part of the world" meaning that they do not follow the worldly traditions or customs. The 144000 are people who once baptised are anointed and sealed with the Holy Spirit.

Also the 144000 are 12000 people fro mthe 12 tribes of Israel. Anyone can be from those tribes as we no lonmger can traceour history back that far using todays methods.

No it is not hte Jews who are considered special anymore, it is the Christians now. But not Christians who follow the beliefs of men (ie a trinitarian God, dont use Gods name)


I have a desire to rule and yet I still understand that God would own me if we ever went against eachother o_O. Wasn't Satan blessed with wisdom and cleverness second only to God? Shouldn't he, being a genius, know that 666 < 777? Satan confuses me o_O.

Satan was an Angel. Not some extra special angel, but an angel. He saw how good the earth was after it was created and then saw the humans and thought, "Hey I could rule this" and then allowed the desire to grow in his heart, he then acted upon that desire.
Thus the reason why Jesus tells us to nip wrong desires in the butt before we act upon them.

Assuming by "we" you mean Christians in general, this could hardly be farther from the truth. Christians have added a lot of man-made traditions in place of God's law, and in the dark ages, the Catholics even edited and cut parts out of the Bible. For example, some Christians (particularly catholics) will worship the image of Mary, even though that is specifically against the commandments. And then there's the hypocrisy and cherrypicking - many Christians defend the passage speaking against homosexuality with all their hearts (I forget where it is, it's somewhere in Paul's letters), yet whenever I point out 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, they either go silent or try to explain how it's no longer relevant to today's culture (for the record, I don't go by that passage, I personally find much of what Paul says to be self-contradictory and frequently against the teachings of Jesus). Some Christians also believe that dancing is wrong, and that enjoying sex with your spouse is wrong, yet I do not see where they got those ideas from the Bible.

You see the hypocrasy of religion too. This is something Godsees and thus is one of the last things destroyed before Armageddon.

NBo I do not count myself as a catholic as yes they have changed the bible.


Pauls words are only contradictory and against Jesus teachings in bibles that are created by religions like the Catholic church, who worship things they shouldnt and such.


You asked some very deep questions about the bible here. I hope that this helps you out some more.

Also who knows why Satan did what he did, I mean he had a perfect life in heaven, why did he give that up? He is a real clown if you ask me.
 

lockyfan

Active Member
It's OK, that is the same exact reaction I had.

No its not, sorry it cameo ut all wrong there.

You do realise that there is only one being that knows the exact date to when armageddon is going to occur? and that Armageddon is not hte endo f the physical world but hte endo f the system of rulership it is currently under?

you can be seriously saying that whoever told you when the end of the world is was right.

SAo i would like to know who told you this stuff as they are spreading a really bad lie
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
you wont find it in revelation. It is in other books of the bible. And revelation mentions all the things that make up the anti-christ.
1 John 2: 18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. 20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

1 John 4:3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
2 John 1:7Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.


Antichrist is mentioned only five times in the entire Bible. All five times are in the two books of John. Any one who denies Jesus is the Messiah is deemed an antichrist.


(This would make me an antichrist):cover:


Revelations does not once mention any antichrist.



The author also claims that the spirit of the antichrist is already in the world at that time. Signifying the end times.
 

Christ Black

New Member
1. No, Bush is not the Antichrist. Actually, there are several thousand Antichrists. They are emerging from obscurity all over the globe. Most are not believed, yet. All of them were non-repentant black souls who turned their lives around and made a comeback. Now, they are going to be examples for all of the antichrists (people who don't live by Jesus' teachings or think he did not exist as the son of Jehova) to follow in their redemption.
2. Yes, the Antichrist is mentioned in the Bible, in John and John II. It talks about there being many, many antichrists is three of the four versus, and what is a different kind of Antichrist in the last verse. The usual antichrist is anybody not living by Jesus' teachings for the most part. The different kind of Antichrist is one of the former kind turning repentant and setting an awesome example to follow. They are leaders and they are adept telepaths with Satan, God, Goddess, etc. When the tiime is right, the people around them will be put on the same telepathic network and they will be able to prove it. That time is very near. I am already starting to go public. By the time I am discovered, it will be impossible to stop me. But I am good, not evil. I am a real Antichrist, but like I said, there are many of us.
3. There is literally a beast as described in Revolations, but Revelations happens both here "on the Earth", and in Purgatory and Heaven. The beast part happens in Purgatory and Heaven.
4. Everybody has speculated on the 666 part. Putting that mark on everybody's hand or head is not the work of the Antichrist. The Bible is talking about somebody else entirely. Trust me on that one. The 666 is Satan and some other people's project number. That is where they came from. Project 666. The Earth is project number 865. There aren't that many projects that we know about, and we are one of the only projects with a firmament. Most other beings are not very educated about this plane of existence. We were lucky that Jehova and His friends gave us the opportunity to live inside an animal (flesh and blood) for a lifetime so that we could experience this world and this plane of existence.
5. Yes, Christians will be the only people revolting against the beast when that time comes. That time is not now. Other religions like Budism and such are valid religions with real Gods who have real plans for their people. Christianity is true as well, although every religion is part right and part wrong. People have complicated Christianity with speculation. All you need is the Bible. Don't sin. Ask for forgiveness if you do. Keep it simple.
6. 666 is not a dangerous number, although Satan sometimes refers to himself as 666, and he is not somebody that you want on your bad side. Everybody who sins is Satans "enemy." He will torment you until you become repentant, thus making you his "friend". The 666 mark on the head or the hand is metaphorical, and happens in the afterlife, as does much of Revelations.
7. The 144,000 kept seperate are considered to be the best genetic gene pool with which to start a new project. Every race is represented.
8. Revelations has been happening for a long time, and it is happening now. It happens to every Christian within their lifetime, both here in their flesh and blood bodies, and after a person transfigures and goes into the next plane of existence. Some of it happens subtley. Some of the more exciting parts of Revelation are happening right now, with the emergence of the Antichrists, and me, the Antichrist Messiah. Everything that happens now is going to be good. The Antichrists are not evil, they are ex-evil. That is God's suprise and a lesson to all of us not to speculate when we are reading the Bible.
9. About the woman and the dragon, I don't know what this story is about. God and Everybody keeps secrets about the future from me in some instances. Right now, I just asked Jehova, and he will not tell me.
10. All the Antichrists know that they are Antichrists. (The main Antichrists, that is.) Some of the people who do not follow Christianity's commandments do not know that they are considered to be antichrists. That kind has been around for the last two thousand years. I seperate the two by using a capital "A" for the Antichrists who are selected to be leaders by makiing a comeback in their lives. Yes, these Antichrists are all Christians. We are going to unite all of the Christian religions and get rid of Mankind's speculations and unneccesary rituals. Because the Christian religion is the majority in many places, we are going to vote to make our laws compatable with Christianity's laws. Christianity is the government in Heaven and Purgatory. I am not obsessed with taking over the government here on the Earth, but I will see the day when people will not get into any trouble as long as they do not sin.
11. Why does Satan think he is any match for God? O.K., Satan and God are never going to have a final battle or try to destroy each other. Jehova believes that good Christians have to be tolerant of people who are evil, such as Satan. We are supposed to turn the other cheek for most every infraction. The concept is simple. We are completely unscathable. The people who sin against us are not powerful to negatively impact us unless we let it happen that way. This is true for even the most violent of transgressions. Things might shake you up, but you can survive anything and come out of it stronger every time. No matter what. Even children survive the unthinkable sometimes and they end up being unscathed in the long run. A lot of what God and Everybody has taught me over the years is how to never kick my own *** for the mistakes that I have made, (that was just my learning curve), to stick up for myself, and just to prove that I am unscathable, Satan and his friends tormented me for six years straight. I am stronger now than I have ever been, and I don't have to attack Satan to do it, just defend myself.
God puts up with an incredible amount of grief from Satan and other evil people. Once in a great while he puts them in their place, but for the most part, he just goes about his business like nothing has happened. Satan cannot ruin his day.
Here is the other reason why it it does not matter if Satan is a match for Jehova. The are on the same team. Satan plays an important role in Christianity. He tempts us to learn about evil while we are young and not as powerful as we will get, first by being evil (everybody here has sinned), and then by learning to flourish even in an enviornment where evil exists. There will always be evil in the world, as long as there are young people. (It is not unheard of for an older being to turn evil due to tramatic events if these beings are not enlightened.)
Satan was once good incarnate. He was selected to become evil to teach us how to be stronger. He constantly tests our defenses against evil. He is a master manipulator who teaches us to be nearly impossible to manipulate against our will, and he finds every loophole imaginable, making ourselves and our laws stronger. I know for a fact that if Satan hurts you, he fixes it every single time. There is a protocol to follow with what you say and do to combat evil. Satan teaches us this protocol.
12. Every person is going to know God. I am going public and I will be backed up by a whole bunch of Antichrists who can prove God's existence, scientifically. We can describe the system that we use to communicate in the afterlife (telepathy - there is no air to breath so you do not talk with your mouths) and we will be able to demonstrate it. The only reason we do not communicate with each other telepathically here on the Earth is that we are not on the same network as each other. God is networked with every person on His project, including us. Most people usually confuse a higer powers statements and comments as being their own thoughts. Information is paradigmed to us, not spoken.
This is the defination of sentience: To be aware that not all of your thoughts are your own. You can talk to God or Goddess any time you want to. Just pay attention to the thoughts in your head and the feeling in your bosom (we are empaths, too) and you will be talking to them. So yes, every person will know God.
As for worshiping the beast, if you do you will not be as happy as if you follow Jesus' teachings. I know that the lake of fire and an eternity in Hell is meant to be a deterrent. Mankind's survival was so important that Jehova decided to lie. He told me that He has never felt right about this, and could I please set the matter straight. I have been in Hell and it lasted for three days.
As for an evil New World Order, there will never be such an establishment. We are building utopia, good not evil. I do plan on being a political force because I am a leader of large group of people. I speak with God's authority and he speaks through me. If we mobilize all of the Christian people, we can make our own laws and punishments, and we can dictate what the government does, assuming that we are the majority in the government. So it may seem like God is taking over the world, because He is going to heavily influence it. As for me, I do not want to take over the world, just help steer it.
13. Are the Antichrist and the beast one and the same? Not even. Satan is the beast. He is ancient and powerful. I am one of the Antichrists, and Jehova (and Elohim's) Messiah. I am young, and my power is given to me by other people, namely Jehova, Elohim, and the Keys of Faith People because I am a holder of the Keys of Faith. There are many other Antichrists, not just me, and none of us are Satan.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
1. No, Bush is not the Antichrist. Actually, there are several thousand ..................................................................(infinity)

Well, apparently, Buddhists have "Gods", the Earth as simply a project number, and Christ Black forgot to take his medication this morning.
 

lockyfan

Active Member
7. The 144,000 kept seperate are considered to be the best genetic gene pool with which to start a new project. Every race is represented.

This is unfounded. They are "kings and priests" in the 1000 year rule of christ.

9. About the woman and the dragon, I don't know what this story is about. God and Everybody keeps secrets about the future from me in some instances. Right now, I just asked Jehova, and he will not tell me.

It is fulfilling the prophec written at Genesis 3:15. The woman is Gods heavenely organisation and The serpent is satan.
The woman gives birth to JEsus and then he destroys the serpent.
 
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