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The Antidote to the End of the World.

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Shibolet

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THE ANTIDOTE TO THE END OF THE WORLD

Here is the reason why the Mayan prediction failed and all else will with regards to the end of the world. The presence of Israel, the Jewish People on earth. That's not a joke; I am serious.

If you read Genesis 8:21,22, according to a Biblical allegory, soon after the Flood the Lord made a covenant with Noah pledging His Word that He would never again allow Mankind to be destroyed again as it had just happened with the Flood, as long as the natural laws governed the universe. What about if man got corrupted again as before? The guarantor would be the soon to rise People of Israel from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Why do I say so? Keep on reading.

Jeremiah, a famous Prophet in Israel read that text in Genesis and declared that as long as the natural laws governed the universe, Israel would remain as a People before the Lord forever. (Jer. 31:35-37)

Another evidence: Remember the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? Before its destruction the Lord appeared to Abraham in a dream/vision and revealed to him what He was about to do. Then, Abraham tried to bargain with the Lord to try to save Sodom. Abraham asked if there was at least ten justs in the city the Lord would spare it. Since there were not, Sodom had to go. Of course, there were hundreds of children but that's not what the Lord meant. He meant a Minyan of ten Jews, which is the meaning in Hebrew. Only ten Jews and those cities would be spared. (Gen. 18:32)

Jesus also must have read those three texts: Genesis 8:21,22, Jer. 31:35-37 and Gen. 18:32 because, in his dialogue with the Samaritan woman at the Well of Jacob, he said to her that "Salvation comes from the Jews." (John 4:22) "From the Jews" he said, and not from one among the Jews.

That's why the Mayan prediction for the end of the world failed, and all will, as long as Israel remain as the antidote before the Lord forever. We might as well never worry about it because it could take a few million years more until they are reduced down to a Minyan of ten on earth.
 
Gjallarhorn

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Social scientists have found that while some group members will leave after the date for a doomsday prediction by the leader has passed uneventfully, others actually feel their belief and commitment to the group strengthened. Often when a group's doomsday prophesies or predictions fail to come true, the group leader will simply set a new date for impending doom, or predict a different type of catastrophe on a different date.

In Experiments With People: Revelations from Social Psychology, Abelson, Frey and Gregg explain this further: "..continuing to proselytize on behalf of a doomsday cult whose prophecies have been disconfirmed, although it makes little logical sense, makes plenty of psychological sense if people have already spent months proselytizing on the cult's behalf. Persevering allows them to avoid the embarrassment of how wrong they were in the first place."

In the case of the Festinger study, when the prophecy of a cataclysmic flood was proved false, the members pronounced that their faith in God had prevented the event. They then proceeded to attempt to convert new members with renewed strength.
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Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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The "Mayan prediction" failed because that's not what their calendar actually said in the first place.

Also, I'm fairly certain that the sun isn't going to give a crap if there are Jews on earth when it decides to go red giant and engulf the planet. Nor would a planet-sized asteroid dead-set on a collision course for the planet give a crap if there are Jews on it. Those are pretty much the only two legitimate "end of the world" scenarios I can envision.
 
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Shibolet

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Quintessence said:
The "Mayan prediction" failed because that's not what their calendar actually said in the first place.

Also, I'm fairly certain that the sun isn't going to give a crap if there are Jews on earth when it decides to go red giant and engulf the planet. Nor would a planet-sized asteroid dead-set on a collision course for the planet give a crap if there are Jews on it. Those are pretty much the only two legitimate "end of the world" scenarios I can envision.
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Well, let us wait and see. Then, and only then, the Hebrew Scriptures will be proved wrong. Another evidence of the truth of this issue I see in the spread of the Jews in exile throughout the earth. It means that a natural catastrophe or man-made disaster must be universal to eradicate all the Jews from the earth. Local esterminations will always leave a Minyian of Jews somehere.
 
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Shibolet

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Kilgore Trout said:
The Mayan prediction of the end of the world failed because it wasn't Mayan, wasn't a prediction, and wasn't about the end of the world.
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Millions of people on earth adopted it as a prediction to the end of the world. It was against that human attitude that the Jewish message is conveyed to.
 
cataway

cataway

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the bible is telling you what is going to happen.......oh........if you would only listen
 
dyanaprajna2011

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Quintessence said:
The "Mayan prediction" failed because that's not what their calendar actually said in the first place.

Also, I'm fairly certain that the sun isn't going to give a crap if there are Jews on earth when it decides to go red giant and engulf the planet. Nor would a planet-sized asteroid dead-set on a collision course for the planet give a crap if there are Jews on it. Those are pretty much the only two legitimate "end of the world" scenarios I can envision.
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Kilgore Trout said:
The Mayan prediction of the end of the world failed because it wasn't Mayan, wasn't a prediction, and wasn't about the end of the world.
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:yes: :clap
 
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Shibolet

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cataway said:
are you still looking for the Messiah ?
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No. He has always been here since the day he was formed from the loins of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The name is Israel the Jewish People. The Hebrew name for Mashiach is "The Anointed One of the Lord." If you read Habakkuk 3:13, "The Lord comes forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One."

The Messiah cannot be an individual. The individual is born, lives his span of life and eventually dies. Are we supposed to expect a new Messiah in every generation? Obviously not. The Messiah does not die. He is supposed to remain as a People before the Lord forever. (Jer. 31:35-37)
 
cataway

cataway

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you sighted .
Jeremiah 31:35-37) This is what Jehovah, the Giver of the sun for light by day, the statutes of the moon and the stars for light by night, the One stirring up the sea that its waves may become boisterous, the One whose name is Jehovah of armies, has said: 36 “‘If these regulations could be removed from before me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘those who are the seed of Israel could likewise cease from proving to be a nation before me always.’” 37 This is what Jehovah has said: “‘If the heavens up above could be measured and the foundations of the earth below could be searched out, I myself also could reject the entire seed of Israel on account of all that they have done,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.


why ?
 
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Shibolet

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cataway said:
really ? do you speak for all the Jews ? because what your saying sounds a bit off the mark
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No, not all the Jews. Many who still believe in an individual Messiah still to come, cannot defend their obsolete point of view. It is on this kind of Jews that Christianity is harvesting on.
 
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Shibolet

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cataway said:
you sighted .
Jeremiah 31:35-37) This is what Jehovah, the Giver of the sun for light by day, the statutes of the moon and the stars for light by night, the One stirring up the sea that its waves may become boisterous, the One whose name is Jehovah of armies, has said: 36 “‘If these regulations could be removed from before me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘those who are the seed of Israel could likewise cease from proving to be a nation before me always.’” 37 This is what Jehovah has said: “‘If the heavens up above could be measured and the foundations of the earth below could be searched out, I myself also could reject the entire seed of Israel on account of all that they have done,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. why ?
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Thank you. You have just confirmed that Jehovah indeed has not rejected Israel. And, as long as the natural laws function properly, Israel, as a People is supposed to remain forever as a People before Jehovah.
 
cataway

cataway

Well-Known Member
Shibolet said:
Thank you. You have just confirmed that Jehovah indeed has not rejected Israel. And, as long as the natural laws function properly, Israel, as a People is supposed to remain forever as a People before Jehovah.
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Jeremiah 31:35-37) This is what Jehovah, the Giver of the sun for light by day, the statutes of the moon and the stars for light by night, the One stirring up the sea that its waves may become boisterous, the One whose name is Jehovah of armies, has said: 36 “‘If these regulations could be removed from before me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘those who are the seed of Israel could likewise cease from proving to be a nation before me always.’” 37 This is what Jehovah has said: “‘If the heavens up above could be measured and the foundations of the earth below could be searched out, I myself also could reject the entire seed of Israel on account of all that they have done,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.

in reallity the '' seed of israel '' does not include every jew that ever lived . there are many that, yes, were jews by birth. how ever because jesus was rejected as the messiah. it then turend to spiritual Israel . do you know who spiritual Israel is ?
 
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