The Atheist's Nightmare ...

[Mr Spinkles]

.... is the common banana. Watch Kirk Cameron and Friends demonstrate the perfectly designed shape of the banana for easy gripping and entry into your mouth (in this guy's Australian accent, it sounds like "bananer"). To me, this demonstration is hilarious but it does take on a nightmarish quality ....

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Atheist Nightmare - YouTube

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Remember, the black ones are bad! LOL!!

 

[Draka]

That thing is quite funny. Of course, he never wanted to even take on the fact that everything he said about the hand and whatnot also works for other "apes". Myself and others have long since referred to Ray Comfort as "Banana-man".

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I like to see them explain the durian

 

[fallingblood]

I think Kirk Cameron has actually dropped away from this idea (it is after all a few years old). He has become somewhat more mature in his beliefs.

 

[waitasec]

I think Kirk Cameron has actually dropped away from this idea (it is after all a few years old). He has become somewhat more mature in his beliefs.

lets hope so for his sake...

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I think Kirk Cameron has actually dropped away from this idea (it is after all a few years old). He has become somewhat more mature in his beliefs.

Which Idea again?

 

[Sunstone]

I think Kirk Cameron has actually dropped away from this idea (it is after all a few years old). He has become somewhat more mature in his beliefs.

He's still a silly creationist who thinks the fact and theory of evolution are bogus, isn't he?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

This is old but still good.

 

[work in progress]

This is one of the greatest examples of unintended comedy I have ever seen! I couldn't help noticing how much Ray loves stroking a banana! It actually took them a few weeks to realize that everyone was laughing at them and they better take it down and put up some other, more mundane ridiculous argument.

 

[Draka]

Kirk's matured alright, he went from the banana being the atheist's nightmare to the crocoduck. I've actually had the insane urge to stop on "Way of the Master" every once in a while just to see what insanity is going on and...he never ceases to prove the insanity is alive and well.

 

[Alceste]

Kirk's matured alright, he went from the banana being the atheist's nightmare to the crocoduck. I've actually had the insane urge to stop on "Way of the Master" every once in a while just to see what insanity is going on and...he never ceases to prove the insanity is alive and well.

One impression I get quite strongly is that Kirk is an incredibly stupid person. I can't begin to imagine how he managed to get so much media exposure.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I told my wife about this video and she said (in an Australian accent) "It's so puhfectly desoigned by Almighty God, that Oi can litrahly shove the ENTIAH bananer dan moi throat ... keeping a fum grip on the bise!" LOLOLOL!!!

 

[Draka]

One impression I get quite strongly is that Kirk is an incredibly stupid person. I can't begin to imagine how he managed to get so much media exposure.

The same way the most hillbilly-ish redneck of the whole area will be the one person the news reporter interviews about the tornado that ripped through town.

 

[`mud]

:danana::danana::danana::danana::danana::danana:

 

[fallingblood]

Again, these videos are quite old (including the crocduck). I'm not saying he doesn't still believe that way, but he has moved away from it to a point. The last interview I saw of his was concerning the end times and rapture idea in Christianity. He wasn't some nut bag in that case and was quite level headed.

Also, not believing in evolution doesn't make one dumb. It makes them uninformed.

I just don't see the need in making fun of a person based on one idea that he holds true. That is probably one reason why the idea of evolution has hit so many road blocks. When some argues against it they are overly ridiculed and the issue is hardly approached in an educational manner.

 

[fantome profane]

Also, not believing in evolution doesn't make one dumb. It makes them uninformed.

And that may have been the case with Kirk Cameron in the beginning. But when you get involved in the debate in a significant way for an extended period of time, like Kirk has, then there comes a point when the excuse of honest ignorance is no longer available. And I am not claiming he is stupid either, perhaps not a genius, but I don’t think the problem is a lack of intelligence. It is much worse than. What we have here is a deliberate willful ignorance and blind thoughtless adherence to dogma.

It is not just that no one has tried to educate him.

 

[fallingblood]

And that may have been the case with Kirk Cameron in the beginning. But when you get involved in the debate in a significant way for an extended period of time, like Kirk has, then there comes a point when the excuse of honest ignorance is no longer available. And I am not claiming he is stupid either, perhaps not a genius, but I don’t think the problem is a lack of intelligence. It is much worse than. What we have here is a deliberate willful ignorance and blind thoughtless adherence to dogma.

It is not just that no one has tried to educate him.

That's true. Kirk should have had more than enough time to have learned. However, he is primarily entering into the idea through debates. I'm sure when he researches the idea, he is going to creationists and IDers for his information.

And then when he enters into a debate, the information from the other side really isn't being taken into consideration too much. Especially when such information is being given in a more hostile fashion. I have see a couple of debates with either Ray Charles or Kirk Cameron in which the opponent simply was insulting and demeaning. Of course Kirk is going to become defensive then and shut off.

So much of it probably has to do with how he is getting into the arena, and the way many people respond. I have seen very few nice responses from his opponents on the subject. Most of them turn out to be similar to this thread, where he is insulted, the idea is insulted, etc. Really not a way to try to educate anyone.

Now, I accept evolution. However, it wasn't because of debates I saw or different forums like this. Really, for the most part, creationists were insulted and the like. I accepted evolution because I took the time to research it myself, and was lucky enough to find a teacher who knew how to teach well and was considerate.

I remember watching a documentary not too long ago, I think it was called a Flock of Dodo's, and the host basically said the same thing. Scientists just don't know how to effectively communicate the idea of evolution to the public, and those who accept evolution, don't do much better. Much of it comes down to simply dismissal of creationism without dealing with it, or blatant insults. I'm not saying all are like this, but it is one factor in which people continue to accept creationism as fact.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

.... is the common banana. Watch Kirk Cameron and Friends demonstrate the perfectly designed shape of the banana for easy gripping and entry into your mouth (in this guy's Australian accent, it sounds like "bananer"). To me, this demonstration is hilarious but it does take on a nightmarish quality ....

Just for clarity he's a kiwi (new zealander).

We already have to deal with the shame of having produced Ken Ham without admitting to Ray.

Ken was actually educated in my home town, fortunately the university he got his degree from has changed its name so we can all avoid a little bit of the embarrassment.

 

[outhouse]

Kirk has no credibility anymore and im sure he is done until this is long forgotten