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The Bible Is A Heavily Outdated Book

CG Didymus

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Brian2 said:
It is no wonder that TB does not believe in the original sin.
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Original sin, inherited sin, even if it's only inheriting a sin nature, I do believe that is what the NT teaches. And therefore, a sin debt had to be paid... by a spotless Lamb. Was the Bab ever referred to as the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world? Maybe now, Baha'is seem to be able to quote mine very well and find a verse that says just enough to make it fit into their beliefs.

But what are Baha'is really doing? Nothing but making their case on why other religions are wrong. How they going to bring religions together that way?
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Trailblazer said:
It comes back as a spiritual body, not a physical body. Those two bodies are different.
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Resurrections recorded in the Bible, by Elijah & Jesus & others, were physical.

Are you aware the Apostle Paul, at Philippians 3:11, spoke of an “earlier” resurrection? That indicates there is more than one.
There are those who are bought “from among mankind” (Revelation 14:4) and ‘rule as kings with Christ.’ Those of the “first resurrection.”(Revelation 20:6) They make up the “Kingdom” that Jesus said to pray for, to aid in accomplishing God’s “will [to be] done on Earth.”— Revelation 5:10; Matthew 6:9-10.

But not everyone gets “chosen (1 Peter 2:9)” to be a king; “the rest of the dead (Revelation 20:5) will experience the second resurrection…. the majority of mankind, to have the opportunity to be subjects of that Kingdom — to learn to become “meek (Matthew 5:5)” and live here on earth, under Christ’s Kingdom rulership.
Trailblazer said:
The physical body is perishable, the spiritual body that is raised is imperishable.

1 Corinthians 15:35-37
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Only for those chosen to ‘rule as kings’ (1 Corinthians 4:8); they will have spiritual bodies.
But when sin is removed, even those with fleshly bodies — subjects of God’s Kingdom — will enjoy everlasting life, as Jehovah God intended for Adam & Eve and their descendants. No more sickness, and no more death. — Isaiah 33:24; Revelation 21:3-4.

Jehovah God’s purpose for the Earth, will then be fulfilled. — Isaiah 45:18.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
exchemist said:
One can go by intelligent reading, informed by knowledge of literary devices and imagery, awareness of the culture and influences of the time and comparisons with other parts of the text.
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I believe one could add other religions, science, history and myth to that as long as none of them actually change the concept that has been written.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Shadow Wolf said:
David seems to think theres circumstances when bashing little kids on stones will make someone happy. Amd then those times the Hebrew army was commanded to rip the unborn from the womb.
You god is not against killing the born or unborn. He had had innocent infants killed in Egypt, and he killed a whole bunch of fetuses and kids by drowning them.
Your religion has NO room to say abortion is evil or wicked or wrong because your god will kill little children who are born and unborn fetuses alike.
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I believe the Palestinians hold that view as well that children of Jews will grow up to be enemies fighting them. I haven't hear a Jew express the same view but it seems they do not sweat it when Palestinian children die.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Muffled said:
I believe then it is not murder but a just God punishing evil people.
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What the hell have infants done to be evil? Nothing! That's what. There is no justice in that.
Muffled said:
I believe the Palestinians hold that view as well that children of Jews will grow up to be enemies fighting them. I haven't hear a Jew express the same view but it seems they do not sweat it when Palestinian children die.
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That's not a good thing to bring up. It's basically what happens with a tornado of crap slams into a whirlwind of crap.
Someone has to make the first move and break the cycles of violence.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Audie said:
Evil babies when it’s the pharaoh who- because god hardened his heart- won’t obey some guy who says let the people go.

once a person can think babies are evil he is hardly a half step away from Dr Mengele
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I believe God does not think they are evil; He knows they are evil.

I believe one has to look at the order from Pharaoh to kill Jewish babies. Was it due to Jew acting as their enemies or was it just a matter of pride and convenience which would mean they shed innocent blood.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Muffled said:
I believe then it is not murder but a just God punishing evil people.
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What the hell have infants done to be evil? Nothing! That's what. There is no justice in that. Only evil cruelty and wickedness at the hands of Jehovah.
Muffled said:
I believe the Palestinians hold that view as well that children of Jews will grow up to be enemies fighting them. I haven't hear a Jew express the same view but it seems they do not sweat it when Palestinian children die.
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That's not a good thing to bring up. It's basically what happens with a tornado of crap slams into a whirlwind of crap.
Someone has to make the first move and break the cycles of violence.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Muffled said:
I believe God does not think they are evil; He knows they are evil.

I believe one has to look at the order from Pharaoh to kill Jewish babies. Was it due to Jew acting as their enemies or was it just a matter of pride and convenience which would mean they shed innocent blood.
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I would not want to live on the same CONTINENT with anyone who thinks babies can be evil and should be
killed.
 
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Eric Hyom

Member
Audie said:
I would not want to live on the same CONTINENT with anyone who thinks babies can be evil and should be
killed.
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You live on a planet where we allow about nine million people to die from hunger every year. Over three million children die from hunger and hunger related disease every year. There are enough recourses in the world to feed every one. By contrast, the rich nations spend billions on dieting, so we have a total disregard for the poor and innocent children. The world squanders trillions on the military, rather than feeding starving children.

We are no better today, than we were in so called primitive times. We seem more unjust in a bigger way.
 
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