The Bible is gay

[Deeje]

It says in the bible it's obamanation.

The act is an unnatural misuse of the reproductive organs.....its not the people who are an abomination....its what they do. OK?

 

[Deeje]

God created you in his own image he did not make people to become gay.

Please do not make such ignorant statements. God created Adam and his wife in his own image.....it was a sinful, disobedient couple who gave their children an awful inheritance. (Romans 5:12) God did not create junk....he created man without defect, but disobedience led them to lose that perfection. We have that imperfection demonstrated in so many ways.....many of them cannot be helped. Jesus came to forgive...not to condemn.

Being gay is not a crime...its an unfortunate by product of our sinful nature....its a genetic hiccup. Who told you otherwise?

 

[Deeje]

Who decides how Jesus judges?

His Father. Jesus judges according to his Father's laws and commandments. God condemns bad actions not the people who commit them. He gives everyone an opportunity to separate themselves from sinful conduct.....because he wants to forgive them. (2 Peter 3:9)

 

[lukethethird]

His Father. Jesus judges according to his Father's laws and commandments. God condemns bad actions not the people who commit them. He gives everyone an opportunity to separate themselves from sinful conduct.....because he wants to forgive them. (2 Peter 3:9)

Men rule.

 

[Deeje]

Men rule.

God is not a man.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

God created you in his own image he did not make people to become gay.

I am who I am. To punish me for being trans and bi, god might as well punish me for also having Asperger's and being born with screwed up knees.
I'm equally unashamed, unapologetic, and unable to change any of those things. If god has a problem with that, it's his problem, not mine. But back when I did worship Jehovah, the emotional trauma I was forced to endure had my frequently crying myself to sleep and praying for death. But I got better, I cut god out, and now I enjoy just being alive.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Men rule.

Why? Women, after all, tend to make better leaders because they more frequently possess the characteristics that make good leaders.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Being gay is not a crime...its an unfortunate by product of our sinful nature....its a genetic hiccup. Who told you otherwise?

Being gay isn't a sin, we agree. But love is not a sin. Any god who would say that love is sin is surely a hatemonger who is full of spite.

 

[Spiderman]

I am who I am. To punish me for being trans and bi, god might as well punish me for also having Asperger's and being born with screwed up knees.
I'm equally unashamed, unapologetic, and unable to change any of those things. If god has a problem with that, it's his problem, not mine. But back when I did worship Jehovah, the emotional trauma I was forced to endure had my frequently crying myself to sleep and praying for death. But I got better, I cut god out, and now I enjoy just being alive.

I'm very saddened to know that religion does that to some people.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm very saddened to know that religion does that to some people.

What's truly sad is how this very frequently goes ignored and unacknowledged. People love to point out the benefits of religion (which, really, are the same benefits that come from belonging to a close-knit group), but even at the professional level in psychology training material will point out that LBGT youth make a massive chunk of homeless youth, but they don't say why - that so very typically their parents put a book of ancient superstitions above the well being of their own child. It's like a giant, oversized, radioactive and glowing elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about.

 

[Deeje]

Being gay isn't a sin, we agree. But love is not a sin. Any god who would say that love is sin is surely a hatemonger who is full of spite.

There is more than one way to "love" someone. I hope you understand that love doesn't automatically mean sex.

Sexual love in Greek is "eros"...it isn't even mentioned once in the NT.....that is how important it is, yet "love" (agape) is mentioned often.
Do you know the difference? Do you care?

Immorality is a sin....that is not love. If you don't love (agape) God more than you love yourself, then sexual love (eros) is just a physical act like relieving yourself.

We are all responsible for our own conduct. You are free to make your own choices for your own reasons....and so am I.
I am not here to impose my views on you and your views do not sway me even a little bit. If cutting God out of your life helped...then so be it. I am not your judge.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I hope you understand that love doesn't automatically mean sex.

Yes. But eros love includes sex, and romantic loves include sex.

Do you know the difference?

Being a philosophy minor, I am very aware and knowledgeable of the different types of love the Greeks spoke of.

If you don't love (agape) God more than you love yourself, then sexual love (eros) is just a physical act like relieving yourself.

Or an act of very deep and intimate emotional bonding.
Masturbation and flings are what you do to relieve yourself.

 

[Jumi]

God created you in his own image he did not make people to become gay.

Why do gay animals exist? For the same reason that gay humans exist. They are born that way.

 

[Deeje]

Why do gay animals exist? For the same reason that gay humans exist. They are born that way.

Nothing in this world is perfect....yet. There are no truly gay animals because animals very seldom do anything but engage in sexual type behavior that is entirely hormonally driven. They have no moral sense but are driven purely by instinct.....I guess its the same for a dog who humps your leg. Instinct is driving the behavior, not morality.

 

[Deeje]

Yes. But eros love includes sex, and romantic loves include sex.

Being a philosophy minor, I am very aware and knowledgeable of the different types of love the Greeks spoke of.

Or an act of very deep and intimate emotional bonding.
Masturbation and flings are what you do to relieve yourself.

Your behavior is entirely your business.....nothing to do with me.

I always thought that 'Aspies' were emotionally blunted. We have friend with a son who has Asperger's.....he can't read other people's emotions at all. He says the first thing that comes to his mind regardless of how insulting it might be, and then has no idea why people become offended by him. He has no empathy or ability to feel much of anything. Perhaps there are degrees common to the autism spectrum?

 

[Jumi]

Nothing in this world is perfect....yet. There are no truly gay animals because animals very seldom do anything but engage in sexual type behavior that is entirely hormonally driven.

There are animals who court same sex and make pairs with them and don't pair at all with the opposite one. Of course many have the desire to try to explain this away.

They have no moral sense but are driven purely by instinct.....I guess its the same for a dog who humps your leg. Instinct is driving the behavior, not morality.

Indeed, that's why they behave as they really are. A male duck that pairs with a male duck and has no interest in female ducks is just what you expect.

 

[Deeje]

There are animals who court same sex and make pairs with them and don't pair at all with the opposite one. Of course many have the desire to try to explain this away.

Like I said, its is driven by instinct. Just as humans have genetic hiccups what is to stop other creatures from having them? Put it down to a wiring problem.

Indeed, that's why they behave as they really are. A male duck that pairs with a male duck and has no interest in female ducks is just what you expect.

Do you know many male ducks who do this? I know old bachelors who live together...not because they are gay but because it makes economic sense to share a house and expenses. Interview the ducks and see if they admit to being gay....maybe they just prefer the company of males because they lack the ability to produce the right hormones?

 

[wellwisher]

I said the Bible is gay and the God of Scripture preferred men over women in ways that are far from subtle. I explained why there is evidence in Scripture that the God it promotes has tendencies that appear homosexual.

I'm not saying that God is gay, because I think God is well aware that there are many errors in Scripture. If the God of the Bible liked women, he wouldn't surround himself with men and choose men to write his Bible, choose male prophets, choose male apostles, choose to have a son and not a daughter, and say such negative things about women.

Science has shown that males and females are wired differently. They differ by an entire chromosome. Women, are more earthy and temporal minded due to the needs of pregnancy, child bearing and child raising. A women are more verbal;y orientated and tend to use the brain more side to side; left to right and right left hemisphere.

Men are more visually orientated and tend to use the brain more front to back and back to front. This is more connected to the visual cortex and frontal lobe. The frontal lobe is about imagination or things not of this world. This is why men tend to do the majority of invention and pioneering. This is closer to the spiritual realms in the figurative sense. It is more ethereal. The female mind is more practical to the needs of culture and the status quo. The bible being more geared toward men, was based on the parts of the brain that were more transcendent and less temporal instinctive. It was a practical choice based on science.

Whoah...who told you that? Show me in the Bible where God is against gay people and is going to send them to hell?...this is the kind of ignorance that gives God a bad name.

Follow me here.....The Bible says that God condemns immoral sexual conduct....no matter the gender. It isn't a person's gender preference that makes them unacceptable to God, because those who are gay can choose not to practice immorality just as much as heterosexual people can. Being gay is just another way that sin affects people. Acting on one's sinful tendencies is what God finds unacceptable. He will never condemn a person for something they cannot change. You can't make a gay person into a hetero because it isn't something they choose. Their conduct is what they choose....just like you do.....do you understand? We are not their judges. Jesus is.

Most people get this all wrong. Say we ran an experiment where we simulate the ancient world, when there were no contraceptives, no abortions, and no medications for STD's. The ancient world did not have insurance plans and huge and expensive social programs. It was a poor time close to natural living.

As an experiment we will allow all manner of modern sexual behavior but without any social mops to clean up the mess. This will simulate the ancient times. For one thing, all the modern STD will appear and spread, since there is no mop. New diseases will then appear that has no cure, since this is ancient times. Gay behavior would be very risky, since there was no remedy mop for the result of insanitary behavior. The result of disease and the transmission of disease, will impact offspring and generate children without parents, at a time there is no social safety net. Such a culture would be doomed. The wage of sin was death, but this death would be at the hands of the sinners since you could see the damage around you.

Modern culture and medical science has created prosthesis that support illusions that certain behavior is natural. However, this is all based the ability to mop up the mess. If we take away the mop, like in ancient times, it is easier to see where natural selection begins and ends. The ancient could see what was natural based on what survived, remained healthy and prospered, even without a mop.

As an example of the modern scam, chickens peck at the ground and will eat little rocks along with seeds and bugs. Therefore according to modern thinking, eating rocks is natural since some animals do this. If I started to eat rocks and medical science could provide services to assist my digestive track and constantly fix my broken teeth due to chewing on rocks, some would call this natural behavior, since chickens do it and the humans, who do this, appear normal. If we take away the mop and let nature run its course, what is natural, is what remains healthy without the mop. It is now easier to see what is unnatural and a product of willower and choice.

 

[Jumi]

Like I said, its is driven by instinct. Just as humans have genetic hiccups what is to stop other creatures from having them? Put it down to a wiring problem.

Don't you argue though, that the "wiring"(I assume you mean genetic components and such by this?) is made by God?

Do you know many male ducks who do this? I know old bachelors who live together...not because they are gay but because it makes economic sense to share a house and expenses.

Bachelor was also an euphemism for gay in some places. Do these old bachelors also have mating rituals and sex with each other? They might be gay.

Interview the ducks and see if they admit to being gay....maybe they just prefer the company of males because they lack the ability to produce the right hormones

In other words, it's their natural tendency from birth. There seems to be no proof that hormones affect sexual preference. Heterosexual men with weak/high testosterone don't become gay.

A mother's hormones while carrying a child affecting the sexual preference of a child is still under debate/study. So being gay would be fashioned in the womb.

 

[Polymath257]

I'm not trolling you are the one trolling said in your words God is gay. No he is not.

That is *your* belief. Others believe otherwise. Some don't believe in God at all.

But it isn't trolling to say God is gay.