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The Big Bang, Evolution, Creation, Life etc.

Call_of_the_Wild

Well-Known Member
And his reason for creating Hermaphrodites is because of what now....????? Is there a "Christian" answer for that....?


When man rebelled against God, sin entered the world as a result. Years and years of abusing Gods original plan of how sex is supposed to be had, genetics were screwed up, and thus....hermaprhodites.
 

McBell

Unbound
Romans 1:25 "They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator"
After careful review it has been determined that you missed this being an absolute 100% accurate truth by two (2) font sizes.

Care to try again?
 

Vger

seeker of knowledge
When man rebelled against God, sin entered the world as a result. Years and years of abusing Gods original plan of how sex is supposed to be had, genetics were screwed up, and thus....hermaprhodites.
Your faith and belief in your god is one thing , but when you post your thoughts on a forum such as this , It would be a very good idea if you would research your facts before you post . You have the entire internet at your fingertips, and it has all of the information you need to come to an intelligent conclusion about most anything. This can also be done without offending your god. I feel by doing this it would help your credibility and may even get people to look at your point of view with more of an open mind. It seems that at times we forget why we come to forums like this. I would hope it is to learn and to bounce ideas off of one another. But all to often it becomes about proving to someone that we are right and they are wrong. Which defeats the purpose of the forum in my opinion.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
If you say so.

I say that it is further evidence of just how deep the bull **** has gotten....
Indeed, Mes, Indeed.
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Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
When man rebelled against God, sin entered the world as a result. Years and years of abusing Gods original plan of how sex is supposed to be had, genetics were screwed up, and thus....hermaprhodites.


:biglaugh:
Are you serious? This was the best you could come up with? Because of "sin..."God" changed the genetics of man/woman and we have hermaphrodites?


You said....

"You can't say it happend at the same time because how would each genders organ know what it needed to be compatible with the other gender??? Either alternative is equally absurd. The male and females reproductive system had to be implemented at the same TIME, or around the same time. Christian theism provides a good explanation. God created man first, and shortly thereafter, he created female. "


Then why do men have nipples because your assumption above insinuates genetically men and women are dissimilar.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
i dont believe in the big bang but if it was true then god made it so either way god is real and made the world and responsible for everything and everyone


"i dont believe in the big bang"

Mr G, its true

Hubble proved the universe was expanding in the late 1920's.

We have actual pictures of the light left over from it.

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First Year Results on the Oldest Light in the Universe

NASA RELEASES STUNNING IMAGES OF OUR INFANT UNIVERSE

NASA today released the best "baby picture" of the Universe ever taken; the image contains such stunning detail that it may be one of the most important scientific results of recent years.

Scientists using NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP), during a sweeping 12-month observation of the entire sky, captured the new cosmic portrait, capturing the afterglow of the big bang, called the cosmic microwave background.

"We've captured the infant universe in sharp focus, and from this portrait we can now describe the universe with unprecedented accuracy," said Dr. Charles L. Bennett of the Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC), Greenbelt Md., and the WMAP Principal Investigator. "The data are solid, a real gold mine," he said.

One of the biggest surprises revealed in the data is the first generation of stars to shine in the universe first ignited only 200 million years after the big bang, much earlier than many scientists had expected.

In addition, the new portrait precisely pegs the age of the universe at 13.7 billion years old, with a remarkably small one percent margin of error.

WMAP 1 Year Mission Results Press Release
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Call_of_the_Wild
Wow. The male and female that you are talking about, were created right? You do realize that the first human EVER made had to have a transcendent cause, right? There had to be something ALREADY IN EXISTENT, to give the first humans there existence, right? Follow me on this. The origin of the first human could not itself be human, otherwise it would be the origin of its own self. Why is this so hard to understand?

Lets better address the above



The new human evolution website from the new 20+ million dollar museam hall at the smithsonian.


Evidence of Evolution
Scientists have discovered a wealth of evidence concerning human evolution, and this evidence comes in many forms. Thousands of human fossils enable researchers and students to study the changes that occurred in brain and body size, locomotion, diet, and other aspects regarding the way of life of early human species over the past 6 million years. Millions of stone tools, figurines and paintings, footprints, and other traces of human behavior in the prehistoric record tell about where and how early humans lived and when certain technological innovations were invented. Study of human genetics show how closely related we are to other primates – in fact, how connected we are with all other organisms – and can indicate the prehistoric migrations of our species, Homo sapiens, all over the world. Advances in the dating of fossils and artifacts help determine the age of those remains, which contributes to the big picture of when different milestones in becoming human evolved.

Exciting scientific discoveries continually add to the broader and deeper public knowledge of human evolution. Find out about the latest evidence in our What’s Hot in Human Origins section.
Behavior
Explore the evidence of early human behavior—from ancient footprints to stone tools and the earliest symbols and art – along with similarities and differences in the behavior of other primate species.
3D Collection
Explore our 3D collection of fossils and artifacts.
Human Fossils
From skeletons to teeth, early human fossils have been found of more than 6,000 individuals. Look into our digital 3-D collection and learn about fossil human species.
Genetics
Our genes offer evidence of how closely we are related to one another – and of our species’ connection with all other organisms.
Dating
The layers that contain fossils and archeological clues can be dated by more than a dozen techniques that use the basic principles of physics, chemistry, and Earth sciences. Some techniques can even estimate the age of the ancient teeth and bones directly. Advances in dating have made human evolution very exciting!

Human Evolution by The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program


One Species, Living Worldwide
The billions of human beings living today all belong to one species: Homo sapiens.
As in all species, there is variation among individual human beings, from size and shape to skin tone and eye color. But we are much more alike than we are different. We are, in fact, remarkably similar. The DNA of all human beings living today is 99.9% alike.
We all have roots extending back 200,000 years to the emergence of the first modern humans in Africa, and back more than 6 million years to the evolution of the earliest human species in Africa. This amazing story of adaptation and survival is written in the language of our genes, in every cell of our bodies—as well as in the fossil and behavioral evidence.
This ancient heritage is yours.
Explore the origins of modern humans in Africa about 200,000 years ago and celebrate our species’ epic journey around the world in this video: "One Species, Living Worldwide."
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/one-species-living- worldwide

New Research Confirms 'Out Of Africa' Theory Of Human Evolution

Homo sapiens originated in Africa 150,000 years ago and began to migrate 55,000 to 60,000 years ago. It is thought he arrived in Australia around 45,000 years before present (BP). Australia was, at the time, already colonised by homo erectus. This dispersal, from Africa to Australia through Arabia, Asia and the Malay peninsula, could have occurred at a rate of 1km per year. (Credit: Image courtesy of University Of Cambridge)
New Research Confirms 'Out Of Africa' Theory Of Human Evolution

DNA Agrees With All the Other Science: Darwin Was Right
Molecular biologist Sean Carroll shows how evolution happens, one snippet of DNA at a time


One of the great triumphs of modern evolutionary science, evo devo addresses many of the key questions that were unanswerable when Charles Darwin published On the Origin of Species in 1859, and Carroll has become a leader in this nascent field. Now a professor of molecular biology and genetics at the University of Wisconsin, he continues to decode the genes that control life’s physical forms and to explore how mutations in those genes drive evolutionary change. These days, Carroll also devotes increasing energy to telling the public about his field’s remarkable discoveries through a series of books—Endless Forms Most Beautiful, The Making of the Fittest, and the brand-new Remarkable Creatures. He spoke with DISCOVER senior editor Pamela Weintraub about what his work has taught him about Darwin, the nature of evolution, and how life really works.
It has been 150 years since Charles Darwin proposed his theory of evolution in On the Origin of Species, yet in some ways the concept of evolution seems more controversial than ever today. Why do you think that is?

It is a cultural issue, not a scientific one. On the science side our confidence grows yearly because we see independent lines of evidence converge. What we’ve learned from the fossil record is confirmed by the DNA record and confirmed again by embryology. But people have been raised to disbelieve evolution and to hold other ideas more precious than this knowledge. At the same time, we routinely rely on DNA to convict and exonerate criminals. We rely on DNA science for things like paternity. We rely on DNA science in the clinic to weigh our disease risks or maybe even to look at prognoses for things like cancer. DNA science surrounds us, but in this one realm we seem unwilling to accept its facts. Juries are willing to put people to death based upon the variations in DNA, but they’re not willing to understand the mechanism that creates that variation and shapes what makes humans different from other things. It’s a blindness. I think this is a phase that we’ll eventually get through. Other countries have come to peace with DNA. I don’t know how many decades or centuries it’s going to take us.
DNA Agrees With All the Other Science: Darwin Was Right | Evolution | DISCOVER Magazine


They Don't Make Homo Sapiens Like They Used To
Our species—and individual races—have recently made big evolutionary changes to adjust to new pressures.

They Don't Make Homo Sapiens Like They Used To | Human Evolution | DISCOVER Magazine

Hundreds of Human Genes Still Evolving
A comprehensive scan of the human genome finds that hundreds of our genes have undergone positive natural selection during the past 10,000 years of human evolution.

Hundreds of Human Genes Still Evolving | LiveScience



Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves

A newly mapped Neanderthal genome reveals that between 1-4 percent of DNA of many humans today came from Neanderthals.

Neanderthals, Humans Interbred, DNA Proves : Discovery News


Its great how call of the wild skips over all these facts and ignores them, while telling others how it is and talks about rational thought.
 

terryboy

Member
Then why do men have nipples because your assumption above insinuates genetically men and women are dissimilar.

Twelve thousand years ago in the Garden of Eden

Adam: Oh God, I'm sorry, I'm innocent, Eve gave me the fruit to eat.
Eve: Oh God, I'm sorry too, I'm innocent too, the serpent gave the the fruit to eat.
The Serpent: Oh God, I'm sorry too but you put the fruit there and you didn't tell me not to tell them to eat.

God was angry because in the end he was the one at fault. Being an ego-maniac that he is, he wouldn't admit his mistake, so he cursed the trio.

To the serpent he said "Cursed are you, you will crawl on you belly and eat dust all the days of your life"

To Eve he said "Cursed are you, I will make your childbearing painful and you will have to sit to pee for all the days of your life"

To Adam he said "Cursed are you, I will give you nipples like those of Eve's and never again you will enjoy multiple orgasms"

That's why men have nipples..
 
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shawn001

Well-Known Member
So call of the wild, explain things like Homo floresiensis

"Remains of the most recently discovered early human species, Homo floresiensis (nicknamed ‘Hobbit’), have been found between 95,000 and 17,000 years ago on the Island of Flores, Indonesia. H. floresiensis individuals stood approximately 3 feet 6 inches tall, had tiny brains, large teeth for their small size, shrugged-forward shoulders, no chins, receding foreheads, and relatively large feet due to their short legs. Despite their small body and brain size, H. floresiensis made and used stone tools, hunted small elephants and large rodents, coped with predators such as giant Komodo dragons, and may have used fire.

The diminutive stature and small brain of H. floresiensis may have resulted from island dwarfism—an evolutionary process that results from long-term isolation on a small island with limited food resources and a lack of predators. Pygmy elephants on Flores, now extinct, showed the same adaptation. The smallest known species of Homo and Stegodon elephant are both found on the island of Flores, Indonesia. However, some scientists are now considering the possibility that the ancestors of H. floresiensis may have been small when they first reached Flores."

Homo floresiensis




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There has been in the past more then one member of the human species living on earth at the same time.

A lot of people also still have Neanderthal DNA in them.


Species

While the exact number of early human species is debated, on this page are links to summaries of the early human species accepted by most scientists. Click on any species to learn more about it.
Below the summaries is a chart showing the time span during which fossils of each species have been found.


Species | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
When man rebelled against God, sin entered the world as a result. Years and years of abusing Gods original plan of how sex is supposed to be had, genetics were screwed up, and thus....hermaprhodites.


Your saying you know gods orginal plan?

Some Christians can be the worst enemy to Christanity when they say stuff like the above.

So you loving god makes babies hermaprhodites, because of others "Years and years of abusing Gods original plan"

" how sex is supposed to be had"

LOL

That must be the missionary position. ;)

Stuff like that come out at the same time as the promotion of intelligent design. Its not intelligent to misunderstand and deny evolution of life on earth over the last 4.57 billion years.

Modern humans haven't been on Earth that long and we can already trace our roots back 6 million years to earlier ancestors.

Perhaps you should give up on the big bang and cosmology for a while and come back to earth and learn about earth first.

According to the bible, the earth was made before the sun. Do you believe that?
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
When man rebelled against God, sin entered the world as a result. Years and years of abusing Gods original plan of how sex is supposed to be had, genetics were screwed up, and thus....hermaprhodites.
How do you use the plan of an all-knowing God in a way that he didn't intend?
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Twelve thousand years ago in the Garden of Eden

Adam: Oh God, I'm sorry, I'm innocent, Eve gave me the fruit to eat.
Eve: Oh God, I'm sorry too, I'm innocent too, the serpent gave the the fruit to eat.
The Serpent: Oh God, I'm sorry too but you put the fruit there and you didn't tell me not to tell them to eat.

God was angry because in the end he was the one at fault. Being an ego-maniac that he is, he wouldn't admit his mistake, so he cursed the trio.

To the serpent he said "Cursed are you, you will crawl on you belly and eat dust all the days of your life"

To Eve he said "Cursed are you, I will make your childbearing painful and you will have to sit to pee for all the days of your life"

To Adam he said "Cursed are you, I will give you nipples like those of Eve's and never again you will enjoy multiple orgasms"

That's why men have nipples..


:p...........
 

gnostic

The Lost One
terryboy said:
Twelve thousand years ago in the Garden of Eden

Adam: Oh God, I'm sorry, I'm innocent, Eve gave me the fruit to eat.
Eve: Oh God, I'm sorry too, I'm innocent too, the serpent gave the the fruit to eat.
The Serpent: Oh God, I'm sorry too but you put the fruit there and you didn't tell me not to tell them to eat.

God was angry because in the end he was the one at fault. Being an ego-maniac that he is, he wouldn't admit his mistake, so he cursed the trio.

To the serpent he said "Cursed are you, you will crawl on you belly and eat dust all the days of your life"

To Eve he said "Cursed are you, I will make your childbearing painful and you will have to sit to pee for all the days of your life"

To Adam he said "Cursed are you, I will give you nipples like those of Eve's and never again you will enjoy multiple orgasms"

That's why men have nipples..

:biglaugh:
 

Call_of_the_Wild

Well-Known Member
:biglaugh:
Are you serious? This was the best you could come up with? Because of "sin..."God" changed the genetics of man/woman and we have hermaphrodites?
Then why do men have nipples because your assumption above insinuates genetically men and women are dissimilar.

Based on the last....lets say 4 or 5 posts that I read, all i see is the word "nipples". I refuse to get distracted. No one bothered to respond to my post about the male and female reproductive system but yet the topic has been shifted to nipple talk hahaha.
 
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