The Birth of Christ..."What really happened?"

[Thorwald Johansen]

There is only ONE answer to this question;

1) First of all, Jesus as The Lord of Hosts was not 'destroyed' when He 'took on flesh'. He was 'in' Christ.

2) Mary carried the 'curse' of the sin of Adam & Eve, as we all do (knowledge of good and evil).

3) Jesus had to be born without sin. He had to be an 'unblemished' Lamb.

4) The physical appearance of Mary did not change the physical appearance of Jesus. He remained in the 'express image' of The Lord God Almighty (His response to Philip..."If you see me, you see The Father" [The Lord God Almighty, the Father of ALL creation, The Son of the 'invisible to man' 'FATHER']),

5) Jesus had to wait until he matured to the point, where His physical appearance was identical to His physical appearance as Lord of Hosts, before He could make the statement in 4) (above). This means that The Lord God Almighty and Jesus as Lord of Hosts, appear as identical men in their early thirties.

There is only one way for the above to be satisfied. The Holy Ghost must have implanted Jesus in the body of Mary, as an embryo/fetus. The body of Mary provided for the gestation period required for the embryo/fetus to develop into a human 'baby', prior to His birth, as Son of Man. No 'conception', took place, AT ALL.

 

[mainliner]

There is only ONE answer to this question;

1) First of all, Jesus as The Lord of Hosts was not 'destroyed' when He 'took on flesh'. He was 'in' Christ.

2) Mary carried the 'curse' of the sin of Adam & Eve, as we all do (knowledge of good and evil).

3) Jesus had to be born without sin. He had to be an 'unblemished' Lamb.

4) The physical appearance of Mary did not change the physical appearance of Jesus. He remained in the 'express image' of The Lord God Almighty (His response to Philip..."If you see me, you see The Father" [The Lord God Almighty, the Father of ALL creation, The Son of the 'invisible to man 'FATHER']),

5) Jesus had to wait until he matured to the point, where His physical appearance was identical to His physical appearance as Lord of Hosts, before He could make the statement in 4) (above). This means that The Lord God Almighty and Jesus as Lord of Hosts, appear as identical men in their early thirties.

There is only one way for the above to be satisfied. The Holy Ghost must implanted Jesus in the body of Mary, as an embryo/fetus. The body of Mary provided for the gestation period required for the embryo/fetus to develop into a human 'baby', prior to His birth, as Son of Man. No 'conception, took place, AT ALL.

you must remember your talking about god ...... god can do what ever he wants ..... anything is possible even the impossable



but i see your point

 

[Thorwald Johansen]

you must remember your talking about god ...... god can do what ever he wants ..... anything is possible even the impossable



but i see your point

you must remember your talking about god ...... god can do what ever he wants ..... anything is possible even the impossable



but i see your point

We have to remember, that Jesus Christ was given the name, 'Emanuel', meaning... 'God with us'.

 

[Theodore A. Jones]

you must remember your talking about god ...... god can do what ever he wants ..... anything is possible even the impossable



but i see your point

"your" should have been you're.

 

[mainliner]

"your" should have been you're.

i thank you lol

 

[Thorwald Johansen]

Understanding the birth of Christ, is very powerful wisdom. I could not, on my own, ever have figured it out. I wrote a small book, titled, "Black Lights & Burnt Candles", published by WestBow Press in February, 2013. In this book, I briefly tell of what I was taught by God, directly. I knew that I would have to deal with Christ's birth, but did not know what to write. When I had entered the 'period' after the last sentence I had written, God gave me the information I needed. I never had to stop writing.

The vision, followed by the dream in riddles, was amazing. Nowhere in scriptures, do we find 'all four figures' present at the same time. My 'job' is to make others aware of the truth. It is up to each individual to either believe, or not.

God showed me, that I am an Israelite, descended from the lost tribes of Israel. This shocked me. My father was born in Norway, and my mother was born in Scotland. In my book, I explained how God taught me this.

The Christian ministry have buried themselves in theology degrees and diplomas, and refuse to seek wisdom from God. They believe that they now 'know it all', and seek very little wisdom from God. They have become modern day 'scribes and Pharisees'. They haven't paid enough attention to whom Christ chose as disciples/apostles. Christ chose those who were not 'sitting on pedestals' of their own making.

In the dream 'in riddles', I was shown, that 20% or so of the Word given to us, is missing. As I read through N/T scripture over and over, many of the missing verses would appear, and later, disappear again. None changed the basic story of Jesus. They simply added more knowledge.

 

[jeager106]

I'm very happy to know that someone posts here that has direct conversations with god. You are very special.

 

[029b10]

you must remember your talking about god ...... god can do what ever he wants ..... anything is possible even the impossable

If you believe that all things are possible with God then maybe you might consider that God lied to you since remember, all things are possible with your God.

As written in Hebrews 6:18;

That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

 

[mainliner]

If you believe that all things are possible with God then maybe you might consider that God lied to you since remember, all things are possible with your God.

As written in Hebrews 6:18;

That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

material things are possible ...... If he wanted to turn the world onto a banana he could .

matters of the heart are a different thing ....... You can lie but you wont succeed

god never lied to me .

 

[029b10]

material things are possible ...... If he wanted to turn the world onto a banana he could .

matters of the heart are a different thing ....... You can lie but you wont succeed

god never lied to me .

Did God tell you the first male and female were named Adam & Eve?

 

[Thorwald Johansen]

I'm very happy to know that someone posts here that has direct conversations with god. You are very special.

Thank you.

At the end of my dream 'in riddles', God told me that anything I wanted to know concerning the scriptures, I simply had to go to Him in prayer, and He would answer me.

I spent over nine years (year 2003+) in deep prayer, researching on the internet, visiting many Christian churches, communicating with ministers of all 'one god' faiths, discussing religion on many Christian and Muslim forums, and reading the KJV Bible (at times comparing it to other 'bibles'. I am a self-employed accountant, and I became angry at times, when my accounting workload interfered with my desire to carry on with my religious work. In one evening alone, I read through the KJV Bible NT, twice, back-to-back. On the second time through, I still remembered what I had read, on my first time through. I found that I could understand the scriptures much better, by doing so.

Some of the missing scriptures that 'appeared and disappeared again', when I was reading NT scripture, are as follows;

1) Fear comes from dishonesty.
2) The Father is always praying for you [intercession].
3) As a child, you have known The Word.
4) If they threw the Master out [of the church], they will surely throw you out. (This has taken place on forums, in churches, and in communication with 'the learned'...Academics.)

Often when I would go for coffee, I would sit in my truck at the coffee shop. God would provide me with 'answers' to questions I had not even asked. Most of this concerned the 'missing' Word.

The Pastor of a Baptist church which I attended at the time, told me that he knew of no one (including himself, and the other ministers) in Thunder Bay, Ontario, who was more dedicated to The Word of God, than I. The population of Thunder Bay is greater than 100,000.

 

[mainliner]

Did God tell you the first male and female were named Adam & Eve?

god never spoke to me ?

he spoke to the op apparently

 

[mainliner]

r u saying you had a talk with god?

Thank you.

At the end of my dream 'in riddles', God told me that anything I wanted to know concerning the scriptures, I simply had to go to Him in prayer, and He would answer me.

I spent over nine years (year 2003+) in deep prayer, researching on the internet, visiting many Christian churches, communicating with ministers of all 'one god' faiths, discussing religion on many Christian and Muslim forums, and reading the KJV Bible (at times comparing it to other 'bibles'. I am a self-employed accountant, and I became angry at times, when my accounting workload interfered with my desire to carry on with my religious work. In one evening alone, I read through the KJV Bible NT, twice, back-to-back. On the second time through, I still remembered what I had read, on my first time through. I found that I could understand the scriptures much better, by doing so.

Some of the missing scriptures that 'appeared and disappeared again', when I was reading NT scripture, are as follows;

1) Fear comes from dishonesty.
2) The Father is always praying for you [intercession].
3) As a child, you have known The Word.
4) If they threw the Master out [of the church], they will surely throw you out. (This has taken place on forums, in churches, and in communication with 'the learned'...Academics.)

Often when I would go for coffee, I would sit in my truck at the coffee shop. God would provide me with 'answers' to questions I had not even asked. Most of this concerned the 'missing' Word.

The Pastor of a Baptist church which I attended at the time, told me that he knew of no one (including himself, and the other ministers) in Thunder Bay, Ontario, who was more dedicated to The Word of God, than I. The population of Thunder Bay is greater than 100,000.

 

[Thorwald Johansen]

r u saying you had a talk with god?

God has spoken to me in many different ways;
1) He answered a deep prayer I had prayed, in His own voice.
2) He spoke to me 'face-to-face' in my dream 'in riddles'.
3) He used my thoughts to answer me, many, many times.

 

[mainliner]

God has spoken to me in many different ways;
1) He answered a deep prayer I had prayed, in His own voice.
2) He spoke to me 'face-to-face' in my dream 'in riddles'.
3) He used my thoughts to answer me, many, many times.

what did he look like

 

[Thorwald Johansen]

what did he look like

Both Jesus and The Lord God Almighty appeared as follows (remember, they are in the 'express image' of each other);

1) Men in their early thirties.
2) Short, well-groomed (combed) black hair.
3) Clean-shaven (NO facial hair).
4) Caucasian.
5) Dressed in pure white robes.

 

[mainliner]

Both Jesus and The Lord God Almighty appeared as follows (remember, they are in the 'express image' of each other);

1) Men in their early thirties.
2) Short, well-groomed (combed) black hair.
3) Clean-shaven (NO facial hair).
4) Caucasian.
5) Dressed in pure white robes.

right .......where did they get there razors from?

 

[jeager106]

Both Jesus and The Lord God Almighty appeared as follows (remember, they are in the 'express image' of each other);

1) Men in their early thirties.
2) Short, well-groomed (combed) black hair.
3) Clean-shaven (NO facial hair).
4) Caucasian.
5) Dressed in pure white robes.

Those are your images from deep inside your own mind.
These "revelations" are false.
Jesus life on earth was as a middle eastern Jew. Short in stature, dark eyes, dark hair and olive complexion. Christ would have looked like any other Arab of the period.
God has no physical body at all, Jesus no longer does.

 

[Theodore A. Jones]

If you believe that all things are possible with God then maybe you might consider that God lied to you since remember, all things are possible with your God.

As written in Hebrews 6:18;

That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Those two unidentified immutable things are?

 

[Theodore A. Jones]

"God has no physical body at all, Jesus no longer does.[/QUOTE]"
And that "revelation" does not come from between your ears I suppose?