The Blatant Hypocrisy of associating terrorism with Islam !

[The Shield of Islam]

Dear All:

I am sick and tired from the hypocrisy of some people who only associate terrorism with Islam and talk about so called Islamic terrorism forgeting other terrorists and indeed the Muslim victims of terrorism, why you dont talk about the MUSLIM VICTIMS OF TERRORISM ????? Why you dont talk about other NON MUSLIM terrorist organizations ??

Why you dont talk about the ''FARC'' terrorists in Coloumbia who are killing thousands of people ??? is it because they are not Muslims ??

Why you dont talk about the ''Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path)''terrorist organization in PERU ??? is it because they are not Muslims ?

Why you dont talk about the Terrorist Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement (MRTA) in Peru ???

Why you dont talk about the American domestic terrorist organizations ?? is it because they are not muslims ?

http://www.bluecorncomics.com/enemy.htm

Why you dont talk about The MAFIA in latin America and Mexcio ??? is it because they are not Muslims ?

Why you dont talk about the Christian abortion clinic bombers ??? is it because they are not Muslims ???

Why you dont talk about the suicide bombing in Bolivia which killed innocent civilians inside the Bolivian congress 2 weeks ago ?? is it because the suicide bomber was not Muslim ????

Why you dont talk about ETA, the Spanish terrorist organization which killed more than 800 innocent Spainsh ? why you dont describe them as CATHOLIC TERRORISTS since the catholic church formally adopted them under Franco??

Why you dont talk about the Revolutionary Nuclei (RN) a.k.a. Revolutionary terrorist Cells in Greece ?? or the Greek Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17 November)?? is it because they are not Muslims ???

Why you dont talk about the IRA ?? why you dont describe them as CATHOLIC TERRORISTS ?? why you only associate Islamic with the word terrorism ??????

Why you dont talk about the Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)in N.Ireland ?? why you dont describe them as CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS ?????

Why you dont talk about The Orange Volunteers (OV)terrorist organization in N.Ireland ???

Why you dont talk about the Real IRA (RIRA) a.k.a. True IRA????

Why you dont talk about the Terrorist Israli organizations such as Kach and Kahane Chai ???????

Why you dont talk about the Aum Supreme Truth (Aum) a.k.a. Aum Shinrikyo, Aleph, terrorist organization in Japan? those terrorists realsed chemical gas which killed tens of innocent japanese ?? is it because they are not Muslims ?

Why you dont talk about the 'Alex Boncayao Brigade (ABB)' terrorist communist organization in the Phillippnes !!

Why you dont talk about the Tamil Tigers in Seri Lanka who commited more suicide bombings than any one else on earth ??? why you dont describe them as HINDU terrorists ????

And many more terrorist organizations which are Not Muslims ?

You might be surprised to know that Hitler was NOT muslim after all !

The holocaust was not muslim invention.

The nuclear bomb was not Muslim invention.

The WW1 and WW2 did not start by muslims !!

The killing of hundred of thousands of innocent Vietnamese was not done by Muslims ??

The spots in our world where terrorism and killing is raging and where muslims are not involved are more than the spots where Muslims are involved:

The Genocide in Rawanda in 1994 which killed nearly 1 million innocent people was done by NON MUSLIMS under the patronage of the church !

The Genocide in BOSNIA against Muslims was done by CHRISTIAN serbs against Muslims, here are some pictures:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/bosnia/index.html

Killing Muslims in Indonesia ( in the christian islands ), here are some graphic pictures:

http://forum.fwaed.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47763

Burning Muslims ALIVE in India by some hindu fanatics:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/india/index.htm

The Brutal massacres against Muslims by the christian Russians in Chechnya:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/chechnya/index.html

Indian forces terrorizing MUSLIMS in Kashmir:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/kashmir/index.htm

The American barbaric terrorism against Muslims in Iraq:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/iraq/index.htm

The sadistic Israeli SAVAGERY THAT SURPASSES NAZIS...terrorism against innocent Muslims in Palestine:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/palestine/index.htm

After all that, do you still want to talk about Muslim Terrorism ?????

 

[Green Gaia]

Interesting you used the swords as the icon for this thread, but anway...



Are you ranting at someone in particular here or just venting in general?

 

[(Q)]

This is not a political forum in which to discuss terrorism. This thread should be deleted.

 

[The Shield of Islam]

Why it should be deleted ?? is it because it exposes the Blatant Hypocrisy of associating Islam with terrorism ??

 

[(Q)]

Did you even read my post? I'll say it again.

This is not a politcal forum for discussing terrorism.

 

[Green Gaia]

Sheild, I think Q questioned the reason for the thread because this is a forum about religion, not terrorism or politics. No one here denies that Islam is falsely accused in the hunt for terrorists, but anyone with a brain knows that most Muslims are peaceful people. Perhaps there is a political forum somewhere for your thread, but it seems rather out of place here, IMO. But I will leave it, and let best friend and Rex decided if it should stay or go.

 

[The Shield of Islam]

Did you even read my post? I'll say it again.

This is not a politcal forum for discussing terrorism.

So are you saying terrorism is political phenomena ????

 

[(Q)]

I'm saying this thread is not appropriate for this forum. Do you understand that?

Nod once for yes, twice for no.

 

[Green Gaia]

Am I gonna have to separate you two? :roll:

 

[(Q)]

Sorry Maize - I'll say nothing more on the topic.

 

[Truthseeker5]

Shield of Islam,

I agree a lot with what you are saying in your original post. You are right Islam is getting a tremendously bad press at the moment because of the actions of a few individuals. I agree wholeheartedly with the examples you have pointed out. (Impressive knowledge of International terrorist groups by the way.)

There a lot of bloody terrorist organisations out there which have got no connection with Islam whatsoever and are connected directly to other faiths. (Christianity has a terrible record in this department.)

If I were a Muslim I might well feel that this so called war on terror (Which in my opinion is absolute nonsense) is actually a war on Islam. I can see that. So the question i put to you is this: Do you want to change it ? because all this is is a clash of the nations ego's nothing more.

 

[Truthseeker5]

Shield Of Islam,

I do have to correct you on one thing though: The Orange Volunteers are not a terrorist organistion as you stated.

The Ulster Volunteer Force are.

The Ulster Defence Association are.

The Ulster Freedom Fighters are.

The Loyalist Voluteer Force are.

But the Orange Volunteers are not and are a perfectly legal organisation.

 

[Truthseeker5]

Sorry Shield Of Islam,

I misinterpreted your post. You are right the Orange Volunteers are an umbrella group for the UDA, UVF, ect, ect which are illegal paramilitary organisations. What I wanted to make clear was that the Orangemen are a perfectly legal body (But not the Orange Volunteers. )

 

[Green Gaia]

I'm moving this to the Off-Topic forum, you guys can continue this discussion there as long as you're nice.

 

[Engyo]

Shield of Islam -

I absolutely agree that Islam should not be equated with terrorism.

Respectfully, I do have two questions for you though.

First, I spent three months last year in Qatar. Even there (at least in the english press), I saw very little protesting/objecting by peaceful Muslims against the co-opting of Islam by these radical groups who advocate violence as a way to further their aims. Does this debate go on? I can understand that probably very little of it would have been visible to me. Does the greater Islamic community worldwide consider this issue a problem? I would be very interested to follow the progress of such a debate.

Secondly, I have been told that the true meaning of Jihad is the interior struggle of man with his base nature in order to become closer to Allah (please forgive my clumsy phrasing, I don't know the proper terminology here). Do I have this essentially correct? If this is the true nature of Jihad, why do so many of these radical groups use a distorted version (again, as I have been told) of this concept as a rallying cry to draw more Muslims into their armed struggles?

I am truly trying to understand these issues, and if I have inadvertantly disrespected your faith in framing my questions, I apologize.

 

[The Shield of Islam]

Sorry Shield Of Islam,

I misinterpreted your post. You are right the Orange Volunteers are an umbrella group for the UDA, UVF, ect, ect which are illegal paramilitary organisations. What I wanted to make clear was that the Orangemen are a perfectly legal body (But not the Orange Volunteers. )

No problem at all.....have a nice day.

 

[anders]

Engyo,

In my opinion, you have got the Jihad quite right. It is, mainly, an inner struggle. That is as a phenomenon no different from the inner struggle people of most religions may encounter.

As to the interpretation by violent groups, well, any piece of writing can be interpreted by fanatics to their own advantage.

 

[(Q)]

anders

If the doctrines and beliefs associated with Jihad were removed, would the fanatics find something else to use or would they simply dissappear?

In other words, remove the religious struggle and you remove the need for violent fanatics.

 

[anders]

If religions disappeared, there would still be fanatics. They would refer to countries, languages, ethnicity, philosphies etc. etc. as reasons to fight people who differ from themselves.

 

[keithnurse]

I saw an article once that quoted some Islamic scholar, Iranian I think, who said those Muslims who say Jihad is primarily about our inner struggle against our vices are distorting and making it a "holy bath" instead of what Jihad truly is: holy war. I'm not saying he's right, just that that is what I've heard from the other side.