I have dealt with people on drugs for the better half of my profession, yes it gets frustrating but the difference is I don't place them in handcuffs and place them on their stomach and put my knee on their neck with my hands in my pocket and smirk at people which Chauvin did. I know, my uncle printed a shirt with Chauvin with his hands in his pocket smirking, that is not being pissed it is being vindictive something a cop shouldn't do.
So we're in perfect agreement here, the cop did wrong.
His job as a cop is to investigate crime and apprehend criminals, not to punish them.
The cop was out of control and should not have taken it upon himself to mete out punishment. Alas, this is all too common in cop culture, as numerous recent incidents have demonstrated.
Western justice is retribution, however, it has been augmented to incorporate morality so as to not appear to be archaic like previous Mosaic Laws or Roman/Greek Laws.
Retribution in a suit, eh?
Here's where I take issue.
Vengeance is a poor sort of "justice." It does not help undo or correct what the criminal did, it's not restorative. It does not reliably deter crime. It does not correct the social defect in the criminal.
Vengeance is good at making aggrieved people feel good, not at ameliorating a problem.
Vengeance is what Chauvin did to Floyd. It was wrong because it
was vengeance. You seem to be advocating more vengeance to correct a problem caused by vengeance. You're saying two wrongs make a right.
You're honestly making this mole hill into a mountain. It is quite bizarre to me that you're this passionate about my position of wanting him to receive the maximum penalty, something even the Floyd family asked. So, if you're posing this question to me you need to begin with the Floyd family starting with his daughter who misses her father,
I'm not passionate about your position, I'm interested in the
ideas underlying it.
My question was about purpose, function and intended effect. You still haven't addressed it. I don't think you're getting the gist of my posts.
I'm trying to have a discussion about an
abstract, philosophical question, not the particulars of the incident itself. I'm trying to understand your reasoning, and, now, the the psychology underlying your apparent vindictiveness.
I'm not questioning the legitimacy of your or the family's, or the community's indignation over this tragic crime.
I understand the ramifications of the crime. I appreciate the hurt felt by Floyd's family and friends. I understand the public ire generated.
So, yet again: What is the
purpose of the punishment you advocate? What do you want it to
accomplish? What is it's
function?
