The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Missionary Discussions)

[FFH]

These are basic teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Posted by SleightProblem


1st Discussion: The Plan of our Heavenly Father


2nd Discussion: The Gospel of Jesus Christ


3rd Discussion: The Restoration


4th Discussion: Eternal Progression pt1


4th Discussion: Eternal Progression pt2


5th Discussion: Living a Christlike Life

From [URL="http://www.Mormon.org"]www.Mormon.org[/URL] these are the basic LDS missionary discussion guidelines below.

Basic Beliefs

Click on the title heading for more info.

God is your loving Heavenly Father
God is your Father in Heaven; He knows you personally and loves you more than you can comprehend.

The Gospel Blesses Families and Individuals
A home established on gospel principles is a place of refuge and safety, where the Spirit of the Lord can abide, blessing family members with peace, joy and happiness.

Heavenly Father Reveals His Gospel to All
Throughout history and today, God has chosen prophets to teach the gospel and direct His Church.

Jesus Christ established His Church
The Savior established His Church “upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone” (Ephesians 2:20).

The Great Apostasy
Following the death of Jesus Christ, wicked people killed the Apostles; as a result, priesthood authority to direct Christ's church and receive revelation from God was lost.

The Restoration of the Gospel
Jesus Christ has restored his gospel to the earth, established a prophet and apostles with priesthood authority to receive revelation and perform saving ordinances such as baptism. Christ's restored church is called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The Restoration of the Priesthood
Jesus Christ has restored his gospel to the earth, established a prophet and apostles with priesthood authority to receive revelation and perform saving ordinances such as baptism. This restored authority is found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The Book of Mormon
The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ is an actual record of God’s dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains, as does the Bible, the fullness of the everlasting gospel.

How can I know this is true?
You can know if the gospel of Jesus Christ has truly been restored to the earth. Ask your Heavenly Father in prayer and you will receive an answer from Him through the Holy Ghost.

World LDS Sites
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[AlwaysSeekingTruth]

They don't have specified missionary discussions, do they? Cause whenever the Mormon missionaries come by my door, it isn't like this.

 

[FFH]

They don't have specified missionary discussions, do they? Cause whenever the Mormon missionaries come by my door, it isn't like this.

Yes, they do have a set of basic discussions, those that I've just posted, but they will only use them in formal settings, in which the person has shown a serious interest and has invited the missionaries into their home.

In your case, because you're female, the missionaries are not allowed to enter your home, to do any formal teaching, unless another male is in the home participating, such as a husband, brother, etc.

 

[Watchmen]

FFH, if you had been to church recently you might know they no longer use the set discussions.

 

[AlwaysSeekingTruth]

In your case, because you're female, the missionaries are not allowed to enter your home, to do any formal teaching, unless another male is in the home participating, such as a husband, brother, etc.

And the point of this?

 

[FFH]

FFH, if you had been to church recently you might know they no longer use the set discussions.

Ah, yeah, I forgot, thanks for reminding me, they just do whatever now, they don't do a set discussion, they're supposed to follow the Spirit, but still it's grounded in these basic discussions, they're just not limited to a set pattern anymore.

In other words, missionaries should teach the basic gospel of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in their own words, through the guidance of the Spirit. it's obviously more affective that way, rather than just rattling off a memorized script.

But for YouTube purposes, here are the set basic discussions, for those interested in checking it out at their liezure, rather than having to deal with missionaries in their home. It's all about the internet and the comfort of your own home. Better than having to deal with people, who really can be such a pain sometimes.

Missionaries should teach these basic discussions, but they've been asked to teach them in their own words, using the Spirit of the Lord as their guide, when presenting the churches basic doctrines/teachings/discussions.

The stuff I've posted in the opening post is what the missionaries should stick to discussing, just basic stuff.

 

[FFH]

And the point of this?

The point being, you're not going to get any formal discussions with missionaries if they come knocking at your door, or on the street, or whatever.

If you want a formal discussion, it has to be done at a church or at home, with another LDS male member or female member present.

Missionaries are not allowed to teach formal discussions to just one female.

Rarely, if ever is the spouse or significant other interested, it's usually just one or the other, which creates problems.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

And the point of this?

Its because missionaries (males) aren't allowed to be left alone with females.

The way they explained it to me was that its to make the female person they are talking to feel more comfortable...to which I replied "turning two men into three is really going to do that "

I can remember when we met at the Chapel for my baptismal interview, the two missionaries and I arrived before the other two missionaries so we brought some chairs outside and sat outside in the car park!

 

[FFH]

Its because missionaries (males) aren't allowed to be left alone with females.

The way they explained it to me was that its to make the female person they are talking to feel more comfortable...to which I replied "turning two men into three is really going to do that "

I can remember when we met at the Chapel for my baptismal interview, the two missionaries and I arrived before the other two missionaries so we brought some chairs outside and sat outside in the car park!

When I was a missionary in Japan, we were told, in the case of teaching females, that another female LDS member must be present and we must meet at the church. That was the rule in Japan, and I assumed it applied throughout the church, and if it didn't it should. So in other words, there had to be another female LDS member present, not another male member.

Another female LDS member was always asked to be present during the missionary discussions. Two missionaries, one female investigator, and one LDS female member, and we ALWAYS met at the church.

 

[zomg]

The missionary lessons are broken up into five main sections.

Lesson 1: The Message of the Restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___06_03-1_TheRestoration__36617_eng_006.pdfhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___06_03-1_TheRestoration__36617_eng_006.mp3 Lesson 2: The Plan of Salvationhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___07_03-2_PlanOfSalvation__36617_eng_007.pdfhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___07_03-2_PlanOfSalvation__36617_eng_007.mp3 Lesson 3: The Gospel of Jesus Christhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___08_03-3_TheGospel__36617_eng_008.pdfhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___08_03-3_TheGospel__36617_eng_008.mp3 Lesson 4: The Commandmentshttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___09_03-4_TheCommandments__36617_eng_009.pdfhttp://broadcast.lds.org/Missionary/PreachMyGospel___09_03-4_TheCommandments__36617_eng_009.mp3 Lesson 5: Laws and Ordinances

Nice changes, in my opinion. The Restoration is presented right up front so there is no confusion. Instead of waiting until Discussion #3.

These lessons can be done in any order as the investigator needs.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

When I was a missionary in Japan, we were told, in the case of teaching females, that another female LDS member must be present and we must meet at the church. That was the rule in Japan, and I assumed it applied throughout the church, and if it didn't it should. So in other words, there had to be another female LDS member present, not another male member.

Another female LDS member was always asked to be present during the missionary discussions. Two missionaries, one female investigator, and one LDS female member, and we ALWAYS met at the church.

For the two times we met, which was at my house before I attended the Church, it was myself, the two missionaries and a male member of the Church.

I think having a female LDS member (even one of the girls I know now) would have been better.

Any sort of plan to the lessons wasnt about when I met with the missionaries, I gave them the impression of knowing a bit too much I think and we pretty much talked about whatever topic I brought up. I met them the first time on a Thursday and we planned for me to go to the Church on the Sunday. We then met another time on the Friday and by the Sunday they had booked for my baptism two weeks after that!

Fastest conversion in history me thinks...

 

[Katzpur]

And the point of this?

Just to avoid the appearance of inpropriety.

 

[idea]

This is what the church currently uses:
Preach My Gospel

 

[AlwaysSeekingTruth]

The point being, you're not going to get any formal discussions with missionaries if they come knocking at your door, or on the street, or whatever.

That is exactly what I said in reference to what you posted.

If you want a formal discussion, it has to be done at a church or at home, with another LDS male member or female member present.

Missionaries are not allowed to teach formal discussions to just one female.

Rarely, if ever is the spouse or significant other interested, it's usually just one or the other, which creates problems.

What about the female missionaries? Are they not allowed to teach just "one female" or you just a misogynist that forgot that there are female missionaries?

 

[AlwaysSeekingTruth]

Just to avoid the appearance of inpropriety.

I meant why he posted it, as I've had missionaries over (both male and female) and I'm married, I completely understand that. My question was why he was aiming it at me.

 

[Katzpur]

I meant why he posted it, as I've had missionaries over (both male and female) and I'm married, I completely understand that. My question was why he was aiming it at me.

Oh, okay. Well, if you can figure out why FFH says most of what he says, you're ahead of the rest of us. :yes:

 

[FFH]

What about the female missionaries? Are they not allowed to teach just "one female" or you just a misogynist that forgot that there are female missionaries?

Of course that's an option, if sister missionaries are available in your area. In Japan there were like 50 to 100 sets of male missionaries to every 1 set of female missionaires, so that wasn't an option in my situation.

 

[FFH]

I meant why he posted it, as I've had missionaries over (both male and female) and I'm married, I completely understand that. My question was why he was aiming it at me.

I knew you had a husband or significant other or whatever, you told me that in the other St. Nick thread, and I know there are female/sister missionaries, but in most cases it's a male set of missionaries that come to the door and a the husband is usually not home, or if he is home he's usually not interested, and there are considerably fewer sister missionaries, not enough to help out the male missionaries, with female investigators, so that leaves only one option, get another female LDS member involved, if you want a serious discussion with the missionaries.

If you happen to have sister missionaries in your area, and you want a serious discussion, the male missionaries will refer you to the sister missionaries, at least that's what they're supposed to do, unless your husband is also interested in having a serious discussion with you and the missionaries.

 

[FFH]

And the point of this?

So the point being, usually a set of male missionaries comes to the door, and the husband is not home, and/or not interested, so they cannot have a serious discussion with you, just a casual one, unless another female LDS member get's involved, or of course, the other option is to refer you to the sister missionaries.

So in other words, If someone in your case is interested and your husband's not, then if the option is available, the male missionaries will refer you to the sister missionaries or arrange to have another female member help out.

Maybe from now on I'll just let others answer your questions. It seems we don't get along, you obviously are upset with me because of things I've said in other threads against your beliefs.

I'm not going to apoligize for my convictions expressed in other threads.

 

[FFH]

Just to avoid the appearance of inpropriety.

Katz answered this in one simple sentence. It just looks bad, when male missionaries are having a conversation with one female, or even more for that matter.

In Japan, we were not allowed to even approach or talk to females unless they approached us, then we would immediately make arrangements for another female LDS member to help us or refer them to the sister missionaries.

Again, keep in mind, usually if a female is interested in the church, the significant other is not (if there is one) usually interested, so immediately arrangements are made to get another female LDS member involved, or they are refered to the sister missionaries.

It's rare to have both significant other parties (spouses) interested, so a serious discussion would be more involved. It would take some further arrangements in most cases, either to meet at the church, because the spouse is against it, or because there is an opposite gender issue.