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The Concept of the One God

Tmac

Active Member
I’m sure, if I were to search, I could find another origin of the concept of the one god but it was introduced to me in a chapter from a book called the old testament, now the concept, before the religious fanatics got a hold of it was that by definition there can only be one and anything else if there were anything else, was lessor and not god at all, ergo, if one truly believes in god then we all, true believers, believe in the same god and that goes all the way back to the primitive and simple beliefs of our ancient ancestors. Do you believe in the one God, do you believe that the God you believe in is the one God, then you must open your mind and temper your emotion so that your understanding and awareness of the one God, evolves, for none of us have it right or all of us would see it.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm afraid it's hard to understand your post without proper use of punctuation marks. :sweat:

About all I can remark from that is our ancestors did not have "primitive and simple" beliefs. Such notions emerge from ethnocentrism and particularly a sense of superiority of one's own culture over those of others, or those of the past. I suppose some people are fans of ethnocentrism - nationalism tends to be predicated on it for example - but I am not a fan.

This also doesn't seem to be an introduction thread. Mind if we move it to Religious Debates?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Do you believe in the one God, do you believe that the God you believe in is the one God, then you must open your mind and temper your emotion so that your understanding and awareness of the one God, evolves, for none of us have it right or all of us would see it.
My beliefs have evolved beyond one God to just One. It is a shift from dualism (God and creation are two) to non-dualism (God and creation are not-two).

I now see the universe as a play/drama of the One in which in Act I, He separates Himself from Himself and in Act II, returns Himself to Himself.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
For my perspective, please note my faith statement at the bottom of this page.
 

Tmac

Active Member
I'm afraid it's hard to understand your post without proper use of punctuation marks. :sweat:

About all I can remark from that is our ancestors did not have "primitive and simple" beliefs. Such notions emerge from ethnocentrism and particularly a sense of superiority of one's own culture over those of others, or those of the past. I suppose some people are fans of ethnocentrism - nationalism tends to be predicated on it for example - but I am not a fan.

This also doesn't seem to be an introduction thread. Mind if we move it to Religious Debates?

I don't mind if its moved, my bad.

Does a notion's origin matter, the mind/consciousness was in its infancy, words were more sounds and not even though of as words and yet pure in meaning and understanding. My point is that all beliefs from the so called beginning, to the present are but fragments, a living testament of our evolution as we get to know who and what we are.

If we believe that there is only one God, then all believers believe in the same God which if truly understood makes us all member of the same tribe.
 

Tmac

Active Member
My beliefs have evolved beyond one God to just One. It is a shift from dualism (God and creation are two) to non-dualism (God and creation are not-two).

I now see the universe as a play/drama of the One in which in Act I, He separates Himself from Himself and in Act II, returns Himself to Himself.


I understand, I remember when I realized this concept intellectually, as above so below and I returned myself to myself and the verse "once I was a child..." came to mind. My question to you is do you know the One?
 

Tmac

Active Member
For my perspective, please note my faith statement at the bottom of this page.


I remember being comfortable with this philosophy until I began trying to understand love, the phrase "No greater love" attracted me and now I search for it. Its the selfishness in me.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
I’m sure, if I were to search, I could find another origin of the concept of the one god but it was introduced to me in a chapter from a book called the old testament, now the concept, before the religious fanatics got a hold of it was that by definition there can only be one and anything else if there were anything else, was lessor and not god at all, ergo, if one truly believes in god then we all, true believers, believe in the same god and that goes all the way back to the primitive and simple beliefs of our ancient ancestors. Do you believe in the one God, do you believe that the God you believe in is the one God, then you must open your mind and temper your emotion so that your understanding and awareness of the one God, evolves, for none of us have it right or all of us would see it.
Its a bit too early to be drinking. No?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I remember being comfortable with this philosophy until I began trying to understand love, the phrase "No greater love" attracted me and now I search for it. Its the selfishness in me.
When I take a look at the basic teachings of the major religions at least, compassion and justice (fairness) for others is taught, so I think that it is this that's not only the common denominator with them but also secular humanism.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I’m sure, if I were to search, I could find another origin of the concept of the one god but it was introduced to me in a chapter from a book called the old testament, now the concept, before the religious fanatics got a hold of it was that by definition there can only be one and anything else if there were anything else, was lessor and not god at all, ergo, if one truly believes in god then we all, true believers, believe in the same god and that goes all the way back to the primitive and simple beliefs of our ancient ancestors. Do you believe in the one God, do you believe that the God you believe in is the one God, then you must open your mind and temper your emotion so that your understanding and awareness of the one God, evolves, for none of us have it right or all of us would see it.

No. I don't believe in the one god. If I believed in god, it would be more than one since there are so many different aspects of life that one god is limiting what many gods can provide. Then if you have more than one god, each person can relate to god and learn about life through that particular god that another person would probably share the same relationship with a totally different god. It doesn't unify people but diversify people. If people choose together to work with the gods, then maybe humanity would be a bit better.

But I don't understand the concept of one god. If there was only one religion, I'd probably wouldn't be introduced to other religions who have multiple gods in it.
 

life.period

Member
I believe in one god . One creator . I am a muslim . We don't ask any one beside god .

Jesus confirmed in bible, he is prophet like muslims believe

Luke 13 jesus said " ➡I shall press today and tomorrow, ➡prophet shall not die out ..etc

Even Christian believe in a book which said Numbers 23:19 - God is not human

Jesus is a human . He is not god
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I’m sure, if I were to search, I could find another origin of the concept of the one god but it was introduced to me in a chapter from a book called the old testament, now the concept, before the religious fanatics got a hold of it was that by definition there can only be one and anything else if there were anything else, was lessor and not god at all, ergo, if one truly believes in god then we all, true believers, believe in the same god and that goes all the way back to the primitive and simple beliefs of our ancient ancestors. Do you believe in the one God, do you believe that the God you believe in is the one God, then you must open your mind and temper your emotion so that your understanding and awareness of the one God, evolves, for none of us have it right or all of us would see it.

I'm not sure if I completely understand your post because it seems you are asking rhetorical questions but going by the idea or concept of One God let me just say that my idea of the One God is align with Judaism and Islam:

1) God is One

2) There is no division in God

3) God is absolute

4) God is incorporeal but can redefine laws of physics as "he" so chooses

5) All things proceed from him (Divine Emanation)
 

Tmac

Active Member
When I take a look at the basic teachings of the major religions at least, compassion and justice (fairness) for others is taught, so I think that it is this that's not only the common denominator with them but also secular humanism.

Yes, I believe all of us know (to some degree) the intrinsic rewards of doing a righteous but it doesn't catch on with the whole, its cousin manipulation seems to be the king of the day. Its the art of the deal that governs our behavior, what's in it for me. Some how, what's in it for me must include and highlight the intrinsic aspect of the interaction.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I’m sure, if I were to search, I could find another origin of the concept of the one god but it was introduced to me in a chapter from a book called the old testament, now the concept, before the religious fanatics got a hold of it was that by definition there can only be one and anything else if there were anything else, was lessor and not god at all, ergo, if one truly believes in god then we all, true believers, believe in the same god and that goes all the way back to the primitive and simple beliefs of our ancient ancestors. Do you believe in the one God, do you believe that the God you believe in is the one God, then you must open your mind and temper your emotion so that your understanding and awareness of the one God, evolves, for none of us have it right or all of us would see it.
That is my understanding, yes. The only difference is that I don't think that God is unknowable, so forth.

/I have religious beliefs.
 
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Tmac

Active Member
No. I don't believe in the one god. If I believed in god, it would be more than one since there are so many different aspects of life that one god is limiting what many gods can provide. Then if you have more than one god, each person can relate to god and learn about life through that particular god that another person would probably share the same relationship with a totally different god. It doesn't unify people but diversify people. If people choose together to work with the gods, then maybe humanity would be a bit better.

But I don't understand the concept of one god. If there was only one religion, I'd probably wouldn't be introduced to other religions who have multiple gods in it.


Thank you for showing me your thought. You seem to be able to express it comfortably in the English language. My question is are you aware of the grammar part of the English language, in particular the superlative degree. Languages evolves to serve the needs of those using the language, why is it that we needed to create the superlative degree?
 

Tmac

Active Member
I know of the One, but it is not my direct experience. I learn from those that have Self-Realized/God-Realized.


When I contemplated one of the aspects (ubiquitous) that God must have in order to satisfy my understanding of God, I found that I could easily see and be aware of God all around me, the last part was to give up the part that I was denying the concept, even knowing the meaning of ubiquitousness, I found it difficult to let it include me, when in fact it already did include me whether I recognized it or not.
 

Tmac

Active Member
I believe in one god . One creator . I am a muslim . We don't ask any one beside god .

Jesus confirmed in bible, he is prophet like muslims believe

Luke 13 jesus said " ➡I shall press today and tomorrow, ➡prophet shall not die out ..etc

Even Christian believe in a book which said Numbers 23:19 - God is not human

Jesus is a human . He is not god


Do you believe that God, know by countless names by countless people, is the source of all, that it is the source of you and me, do you believe you are the son of man, the son of God? If you choose to focus on your earth origin, it is a choice but we also can focus on that which all things come from and know it as a father.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Thank you for showing me your thought. You seem to be able to express it comfortably in the English language. My question is are you aware of the grammar part of the English language, in particular the superlative degree. Languages evolves to serve the needs of those using the language, why is it that we needed to create the superlative degree?

What do you mean? I don't see how that relates to my post?
 
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