The Dark Knight (Possible spoilers)

[Ringer]

I feel like the lone man here but I thought it would have been a bit better. I do agree with Hope in that HL was outstanding in the Joker role. Yes he was a bit more psychotic than how I'd picture him being played but great nonetheless. Christian Bale also does a good role as Batman but I still can't stand his voice when he's in his Batman outfit. If I remember correctly, the other Batmans didn't disguise their voice but he does and it bothers me.

Right now I can't put my finger on why it wasn't up to my expectations. Maybe I was expecting a little more humor from the Joker (he had a few parts that made me giggle but maybe this is a bad assumption on my part), maybe it was that the Joker didn't get the justice I was hoping for, or maybe it was that throughout the whole movie Batman was made out to be the bad guy. Either way, I thought it was the best Batman but was hoping for something a little more that would have pushed it over the edge for me. I'll give it a 90%.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

i think a lot of people are liking Heath Ledger because he is dead.

 

[Magic Man]

I feel like the lone man here but I thought it would have been a bit better. I do agree with Hope in that HL was outstanding in the Joker role. Yes he was a bit more psychotic than how I'd picture him being played but great nonetheless. Christian Bale also does a good role as Batman but I still can't stand his voice when he's in his Batman outfit. If I remember correctly, the other Batmans didn't disguise their voice but he does and it bothers me.

That's exactly why I like his voice as Batman. It has been alluded to in the comics sometimes. He would have to disguise his voice, so that people wouldn't just automatically recognize him. The best way to do it is with a rough, sort of scary voice, like Bale does.

Right now I can't put my finger on why it wasn't up to my expectations. Maybe I was expecting a little more humor from the Joker (he had a few parts that made me giggle but maybe this is a bad assumption on my part), maybe it was that the Joker didn't get the justice I was hoping for, or maybe it was that throughout the whole movie Batman was made out to be the bad guy. Either way, I thought it was the best Batman but was hoping for something a little more that would have pushed it over the edge for me. I'll give it a 90%.

It's funny, I like it for the reasons you didn't like it. The Joker shouldn't be all that funny. I think he was just the right amount of funny. He should just be psychotic and do a few wacky things like he did. The "humor" in the character generally comes from his amusement at the horrible things he does. (meaning it's not exactly humorous to us) I like how Batman became the bad guy, sort of. That's the way it should be. That's why he is so heroic. He isn't even appreciated for what he does.

i think a lot of people are liking Heath Ledger because he is dead.

I'm sure that's the case with some people, but not most. His performance was being talked about even before he died. It's not only about his death, even though, to some people it is.

 

[Mister_T]

i think a lot of people are liking Heath Ledger because he is dead.

Actually, people like Michael Cain were making a big deal about Heath Ledger before he died. I think a lot of people are feeling remorseful that he will never see the fruits of his labor or be around to accept his praise for such an outstanding performance.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

In that case... I saw what he looked like, and he looked like a real villain, something to be afraid of.

 

[Mister_T]

The Joker shouldn't be all that funny. I think he was just the right amount of funny. He should just be psychotic and do a few wacky things like he did. The "humor" in the character generally comes from his amusement at the horrible things he does. (meaning it's not exactly humorous to us) I like how Batman became the bad guy, sort of. That's the way it should be. That's why he is so heroic. He isn't even appreciated for what he does.

I agree. Don't let the name fool you: The Joker is by all accounts, a murderous psychopath (in the comics anyways, not so much the cartoon). If you have any doubts, read up on Jason Todd: Dick Grayson's replacement as Robin.

 

[Mister_T]

In that case... I saw what he looked like, and he looked like a real villain, something to be afraid of.

Definitely a lot scarier tha Nicholson's. I wouldn't have known that was Heath Ledger unless someone would have told me.

 

[whereismynotecard]

I watched it!! And I must say that I'm in love with the joker. I, too loved the pencil scene... and the first scene... and pretty much all of the scenes with the joker. Woooot!! I might buys it on dvds.

 

[whereismynotecard]

Oh yeah!! Batman's voice made me laugh.

 

[Kcnorwood]

Michael Keaton was the best Batman so far, but I am looking forward to seeing this one.

While Keaton was the better actor he wasn't a better Batman. Part of the problem lies with you never saw both sides of Wayne/Batman. Second part was Keaton wasn't bulit for the part, Bale was more physically bulit to don the cape Keaton was not even close. For those of you talking about Bale voice as Batman remember in this latest incartanion of Batman, they are starting from scratch which means he's still learning to to be Batman.

As far as the Joker goes Ledger was a Better Joker then Jack was. Ledger was closer to what the comic book made him out to be. I never really cared for Ledger he was O.k at best as an actor at best he was eyecandy for young girls. However he pulled out ALL the stops here with this roll. In the comic the Joker was Psychotic/Emotionally Manipulative/Scary-Intelligent/Sadistic/Soulless but totally in control of what he wanted.

Bale was playing two very different people while Ledger had to be all things many different things, so of course he had to be the better actor which he was.

Ledger's death had no effect on my opinion of his performance if he would of been bad in the movie I would of said so.


It's going to be intresting who plays Catwomen.

 

[Troublemane]

The Dark Knight was awesome. What an amazing performance by Heath Ledger, what a tremendous swan song for him. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Especially the way Batman is made to look more villainous than the Joker, seems like the Joker is more the snake oil salesman type, really slick who chats you up while he's getting ready to put the knife in your back; whereas the Batman is more brutal, almost an animal. The only thing that separates them is Batman's refusal to kill. Its his one redeeming quality, and what keeps him from becoming what hes fighting.

I thought it was amazing. I just hope they dont have someone else play Joker in the next film.

 

[McBell]

After seeing the movie at the theatre I have to say that Heath Ledger is by far the best Joker.
I still say that Micheal Keaton is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne.

The Joker stole every scene he was in.
Hands down.

 

[Watchmen]

They were all great.

Joker
Harvey Dent
Alfred
Lucius
and, of course, Batman

 

[Magic Man]

I still say that Micheal Keaton is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Out of curiosity, do you, or have you ever, followed the comic book? After thinking about it, I can understand this opinion from someone who's not a fan of the comic at all. I can't say I wouldn't agree, if I didn't read the comic. I'd be really surprised by this opinion from someone who has read, or does read, the comic.

 

[McBell]

Out of curiosity, do you, or have you ever, followed the comic book? After thinking about it, I can understand this opinion from someone who's not a fan of the comic at all. I can't say I wouldn't agree, if I didn't read the comic. I'd be really surprised by this opinion from someone who has read, or does read, the comic.

You got me.
I never had access to any comic books, ever.
Unless you count Mad Magazine....

 

[Magic Man]

You got me.
I never had access to any comic books, ever.
Unless you count Mad Magazine....

I don't mean it as an insult. I knw that not everyone has read or has been a fan of comics. I would just expect someone who has been a fan of the comic to have a certain expectation of Bruce Wayne. I realized that someone who isn't a fan would obviously not have that same expectation. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a different expectation. I was wondering whether your opinion was in spite of that expectation (which would be high praise for Keaton), or whether it was due to a lack of expectation.

I'm sorry if that sounds insulting. I don't mean it to.

 

[cardero]

I always preferred an unknown who looked like the character (in and out of costume) to play these superheroes rather than the flavor of the week/month/year. The star whose agent definately had to secure that roll for their client is not going to suspend my belief or compliment the vision that comic writers and artists have depicted a character and his alter ego. Throughout the entertainment media these types of features have been able to get away with these concerns. Having an actor don a superhero costume allowed one to enjoy the superhero action of a scene but once the costume came off, the audience had to suspend the belief even more depending on what actor played the alter ego. Christian Bale makes a good attempt at the Bruce Wayne personality (aside from his build and stature) but in a reversal of cinema philosophies, it is the man inside the costume that is becoming more difficult to cast and accept.

 

[Ringer]

A couple questions from those who have either read the comics or catched hints from the movie that I didn't:

1.) I've heard from a few people that there's a chance of having another Batman movie which would include, again, The Riddler and Catwoman. From what I've heard, the guy within Wayne Enterprises who was going to take down Bruce because of the millions of dollars spent into a non-existent R&D account, had the makings of The Riddler. I can't remember the explanation for Cat Woman besides when Morgan Freeman's character makes the remark about Batman's suit being made to withstand a dog bite but not a cat stratch or something to that effect. I know they've had these characters in previous Batman movie but wanted to see if any of you had input into the possibility.

2.) Off topic, but.... any of you seen The Dark Knight animated movie that they have out? I believe it's PG-13 and accurately based on the comics. Here's the link if you want to check it out. I've been thinking about picking it up but have been hesitant until I hear a few opinions.

Walmart.com: Batman: Gotham Knight (2 Disc) (Widescreen, Collector's Edition, Special Edition): Movies

 

[cardero]

A couple questions from those who have either read the comics or catched hints from the movie that I didn't:



2.) Off topic, but.... any of you seen The Dark Knight animated movie that they have out? I believe it's PG-13 and accurately based on the comics. Here's the link if you want to check it out. I've been thinking about picking it up but have been hesitant until I hear a few opinions.

Walmart.com: Batman: Gotham Knight (2 Disc) (Widescreen, Collector's Edition, Special Edition): Movies

Catching Gotham Knights Aug 2nd along with The Dark Knight Movie. I read a few reviews in which there are a few stories (4-6) and that two of them are a hit and the rest of them are a miss. No entertainment medium has captured the comic persona of Batman better than Bruce Timm's "The Animated Batman Adventures" and evolved this character in later years in the "JL" (Justice League) and "JLU" (Justice League Unlimited) series.

 

[Magic Man]

A couple questions from those who have either read the comics or catched hints from the movie that I didn't:

1.) I've heard from a few people that there's a chance of having another Batman movie which would include, again, The Riddler and Catwoman. From what I've heard, the guy within Wayne Enterprises who was going to take down Bruce because of the millions of dollars spent into a non-existent R&D account, had the makings of The Riddler. I can't remember the explanation for Cat Woman besides when Morgan Freeman's character makes the remark about Batman's suit being made to withstand a dog bite but not a cat stratch or something to that effect. I know they've had these characters in previous Batman movie but wanted to see if any of you had input into the possibility.

2.) Off topic, but.... any of you seen The Dark Knight animated movie that they have out? I believe it's PG-13 and accurately based on the comics. Here's the link if you want to check it out. I've been thinking about picking it up but have been hesitant until I hear a few opinions.

Walmart.com: Batman: Gotham Knight (2 Disc) (Widescreen, Collector's Edition, Special Edition): Movies

1) Anything about the Riddler or Catwoman, as far as I know, is just rumor at this point. Anything's possible, and that guy could become the Riddler, but I wouldn't say it's obviously moving in that direction. I hope they don't do Riddler, only because he's a very campy, cheesy villain and wouldn't fit the tone of the first two. Catwoman could be done and done well, but she hasn't been yet. She would only be part of the story, though, and not the villain (at the very least not the main one). There has been talk that the writer and director already have the villain(s) set, but that isn't even definite.

I have not seen "Gotham Knight". I probably won't either. It is actually 6 (or so) different little stories. Several people at my job have seen it. (I work at a comic book distributor), and none of them liked it much. The consensus seems to be that it has some good parts, but overall, it's just mediocre at best.