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The Divine Made Manifest?

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
"Man's role is to offer new forms, as divine as possible, to God for His use in the process of evolution. New manifestations of the eternally ever-true, the undying law of God’s very being that yearns to be made manifest."

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Do you agree or disagree with the above sentiment? God/Gods aside, is it Man's role to create some unrealized aspect of the Divine?

Not sure I agree. When the natural world is already the Gods perfection wholly realized. Anything we create falls short of that. And thus only worsens things despite what positives come if it.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Though not truly on topic, Imperfection is an interesting read. I particularly like:

Had things in the early universe been homogenous, consistent, and perfectly balanced, nothing recognizable would exist. It was a miracle of imbalance, impurity, and irregularity that gave birth to the greatest unlikelihood, life.​

It calls to mind tohu va-vohu. :)
 

Spice

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I think it's man's role to be in awe of the wonders provided, to explore them, to care for them, to make them useful as intended.

We do explore them, we do make them useful, but we're not too good at the care of, or as intended parts.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
"Man's role is to offer new forms, as divine as possible, to God for His use in the process of evolution. New manifestations of the eternally ever-true, the undying law of God’s very being that yearns to be made manifest."

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Do you agree or disagree with the above sentiment? God/Gods aside, is it Man's role to create some unrealized aspect of the Divine?

Not sure I agree. When the natural world is already the Gods perfection wholly realized. Anything we create falls short of that. And thus only worsens things despite what positives come if it.
I find mankind to be creative but not the centerpiece of the universe.
 

Tamino

Active Member
When the natural world is already the Gods perfection wholly realized.
Actually, I think the natural world is pretty messy, and not always good or even perfect. It's still amazing and beautiful and all that ... But it's cruel, dumb and hideous at the exact same time.
Anything we create falls short of that. And thus only worsens things despite what positives come if it.
I'd argue that we're far more a part of that natural world than we like to admit. Anything we create is natural as well. Otherwise, where would you draw the line? Is a bird's nest natural? A beaver's dam?

So, yeah, anything we create is realization of the divine, same as any natural feature. I really would not want to draw a definite line between "man-made" and "natural"
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Actually, I think the natural world is pretty messy, and not always good or even perfect. It's still amazing and beautiful and all that ... But it's cruel, dumb and hideous at the exact same time.

I don't disagree. But that doesn't negate it's perfection imo.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I'd argue that we're far more a part of that natural world than we like to admit.
Agreed
Anything we create is natural as well. Otherwise, where would you draw the line? Is a bird's nest natural? A beaver's dam?
Is plastic natural? What about a painting? Just because it has natural materials doesn't necessarily make it natural.
So, yeah, anything we create is realization of the divine, same as any natural feature.
I disagree. But understand your point.
I really would not want to draw a definite line between "man-made" and "natural"
I don't see why not.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Now it comes back to perfection again...

What is it? Is it real?

I consider perfection a balancing act of positive and negative attributes, give and take. I think this is realized by looking at how an ecosystem operates, or the human body. Nothing is in homeostasis but everything is in balance.
 
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