The dude called conscious thoughts who may or may not exist.

[Psalm23]

To degree, yes.
Except has not lost control over actions i do. In that part i am still in control.
But I do more often see situations as if "the I" is outside of the body

I’ve had that feeling before where you feel as if you are observing yourself and feel a sense of distance or detachment.

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

Not exactly daydream. Rather my brain just shuts off. Like it just shuts off Or it just starts floating and being foggy. Sometimes I do get too focus on certain details and go away into my mind. I have a lot of trauma. If a memory gets triggered say bye bye to me. And I'm autistic so sometimes I have to disassociate so not to get sensory overload. But also I just do it quite often for no reason that I can think of.

Yeah, I can relate to some of it.

 

[VoidCat]

I’ve had that feeling before where you feel as if you are observing yourself and feel a sense of distance or detachment.

Im not qualified to give medical advice but that sounds like me when I disassociate sometimes

 

[VoidCat]

Yeah, I can relate to some of it.

Sorry to hear that (hugs)

 

[Niblo]

I can assure you, if you feel physical pain (been there, done that) then yes it is your pain to own

What do lasses know about pain?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Have you tried it?

I have, both emotional and physical. With emotional pain it drains your personality into deep depression. And physical pain just doesn't go away no matter what people tell you

Yes, I’ve tried it. The pain doesn’t go away, but you can to a degree stand outside the pain and observe it, rather than being overwhelmed by it. I learned to do this when suffering repeated abscesses in the jaw. It also worked when I broke my elbow two years ago, and had to wait 7 hours to be seen in A&E. It’s a conscious process of letting go, which you can develop through regular meditation and/or prayer. Try it, should you ever have the need again.

On the other hand, I advocate not rejecting paracetamol either.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I don't know about @RestlessSoul but I have issues with disassocation and derealization. When I disassociate and there's pain most the time the pain doesn't go away but I do feel detached from it. Other times im so lost disassocating I don't notice it at all. Sometones when it comes to emotional pain I just feel nothing and that I don't really exist that it's not really happening. I also disassociate in other situations everyday ones that I shouldn't disassociate with. Like while I'm walking near the road and about to cross sometimes I disassociate and don't realize im about to walk into traffic.

The trick, I think, to achieve a degree of separation, while still remaining conscious of your environment. You might find meditation classes with an experienced instructor, helpful in this regard

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

Sorry to hear that (hugs)

It's alright.
It doesn't really bother me anymore.

 

[VoidCat]

The trick, I think, to achieve a degree of separation, while still remaining conscious of your environment. You might find meditation classes with an experienced instructor, helpful in this regard

Problem is I don't do it intentionally

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Depersonalization?

Hah! That’s what the doc would say. Because it’s considered a threat to society as we know it.

But I’d say, it’s only depersonalisation if you don’t like it and it becomes a problem to you in your own view.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Problem is I don't do it intentionally

Yeah, I can see how that could be tricky. I hope you can find a way to live with it comfortably - sometimes, things which seem to be a curse to us, turn out to be a blessing.

 

[ChristineM]

What do lasses know about pain?

Try passing a rugby ball through your butt, give you an idea if the pain of childbirth

 

[ChristineM]

Yes, I’ve tried it. The pain doesn’t go away, but you can to a degree stand outside the pain and observe it, rather than being overwhelmed by it. I learned to do this when suffering repeated abscesses in the jaw. It also worked when I broke my elbow two years ago, and had to wait 7 hours to be seen in A&E. It’s a conscious process of letting go, which you can develop through regular meditation and/or prayer. Try it, should you ever have the need again.

On the other hand, I advocate not rejecting paracetamol either.

I tried it in a situation that almost lead me to suicide to escape from the pain and mental anguish. The only thing that helped is friends and time.

 

[VoidCat]

Yeah, I can see how that could be tricky. I hope you can find a way to live with it comfortably - sometimes, things which seem to be a curse to us, turn out to be a blessing.

oh it has been a blessing in some ways. Has helped me with making trauma hard to remember and avoid sensory overload. Problem is I'm out of the traumatic situations that caused me to do that and I've found ways to avoid sensory overload without disassocation. Only thing it helps with now is avoiding memories. And I don't want to do that. It's also overactive and just causes trouble. I have a therapist tho so maybe they can help

 

[ChristineM]

Yes, I’ve tried it. The pain doesn’t go away, but you can to a degree stand outside the pain and observe it, rather than being overwhelmed by it. I learned to do this when suffering repeated abscesses in the jaw. It also worked when I broke my elbow two years ago, and had to wait 7 hours to be seen in A&E. It’s a conscious process of letting go, which you can develop through regular meditation and/or prayer. Try it, should you ever have the need again.

On the other hand, I advocate not rejecting paracetamol either.

The other time, purely physical was after a botched stomach op that needed far stronger than paracetamol. A 16 inch scar and a minced stomach and large intestine give a pain that simply will not let go. And yes, trying to disassociate yourself from that is rather impossible, trust me, i tried

 

[RestlessSoul]

I tried it in a situation that almost lead me to suicide to escape from the pain and mental anguish. The only thing that helped is friends and time.

I’m glad you survived it, anyway. And probably you’re stronger for having done so.

 

[ChristineM]

I’m glad you survived it, anyway. And probably you’re stronger for having done so.

Thanks, yes i believe i am stronger, and definitely wiser, i certainly won't be caught in that situation again.

But even now some 11 years later i still, on occasion, wake up screaming from a recurring nightmare.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The pain "my" body experience is there, but I no longer see it as "my" pain. It is just pain. So again its depersonalizarion of what pain is.

 

[Nakosis]

It does not feel as existence..it does not "feels" like anything.

Hearing sounds, seeing activity but not reactiting to it any more. It is not part of Conscious thoughts.

Body is not mine...it is only borrowed for the physical life.

Being but not being living but not living

To many questions and so few answers.

To explain it? Not possible at the moment.

Maybe I am going crazy

Split personality the conscious thoughts who thinking of the conscious thoughts that isnt a conscious thought any more...oh ohhhh

To me, it is just you, the brain beginning to realize that the conscious identity you, the brain created for yourself is not real. You, the brain cannot be aware of yourself. So you start to see yourself as immaterial.

The body feels things, like pain and transfers this information to you the central nervous system of your body. This allows you to take action with regard to your environment. You can at least observe your body and what is happening to it and start to wonder who is it that is observing.

 

[Nakosis]

You can, nonetheless, detach from pain, both emotional and physical.

I distract from pain.
There was a study I read where they would set someone up during surgery with a VR video game. The game distracted the individual enough that they did not have to use anesthesia during surgery.

To my understanding, the body releases neurotransmitters like dopamine which acts like a anesthesia. This is how the brain is able to block the pain. Just have to learn how to consciously release these neurotransmitters.

I think the anesthesia used by doctors is simply a way to flood our system with neurotransmitters which block the pain.

General anesthetic drugs produce extensive neuronal changes in the central nervous system by enhancing inhibitory and reducing excitatory neurotransmission. The major neurotransmitters, which are thought to play a role in anesthesia, are glutamate, serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine, acetylcholine, and GABA. The knowledge of neurotransmitters and their receptors’ function is very important in perception of anesthesia in routines practice.
The purpose of this review article is to give an overview of the different types of neurotransmitters in CNS, classification of neurotransmitters and mechanism of action of various types of neurotransmitters and their receptors.
The Role of Neurotransmitters in Anesthesia | Archives of Anesthesiology and Critical Care