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The end of science?

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Unlikely, but you never know.
Considering who owns the labs and pays for the technology, more likely political cyborgs.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Do you think we’ll ever reach the end of scientific knowledge, before all life in the universe dies?
And where will this knowledge get us......will all life in the universe eventually die anyway?
Or is it too early to tell?
And do you think many present day scientists have thought about the end (or not) of science?
The origin of life will keep science going for a few more centuries, even if nothing else does.

But no, I do not think it will ever end. There will always be new discoveries.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Do you think we’ll ever reach the end of scientific knowledge, before all life in the universe dies?
And where will this knowledge get us......will all life in the universe eventually die anyway?
Or is it too early to tell?
And do you think many present day scientists have thought about the end (or not) of science?

Shouldn't think so, there will always be something new to learn

Where it will get us??? Who, 50 years ago could predict the most of today's scientific wonders?

Yes life will end, when??? Who knows but most certainly in the scenario of heat death of the universe life will have long since perished.

Some scientists have considered the end of the universe. See above
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I'm not sure the origin is that complicated.
Maybe a few decades?
Not a chance. There is almost no evidence left from the epoch concerned, due to tectonic turnover of the crust and the number of important biomolecules and structures for which science has to create a testable hypothesis is huge. It's an exciting field but I can't see it being resolved in decades.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Not a chance. There is almost no evidence left from the epoch concerned, due to tectonic turnover of the crust and the number of important biomolecules and structures for which science has to create a testable hypothesis is huge. It's an exciting field but I can't see it being resolved in decades.

The exact process can't be known, but an understanding of how it could have happened is possible. The problem is that there may be more than one road to life. So even if a process is discovered of how life could have arisen naturally that does not mean that was the process used here on Earth.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
The exact process can't be known, but an understanding of how it could have happened is possible. The problem is that there may be more than one road to life. So even if a process is discovered of how life could have arisen naturally that does not mean that was the process used here on Earth.
Indeed that is one problem.

Another is the lack of evidence from the epoch in question, against which hypotheses can be tested.

So we have to do all the work ourselves, really, the only clues being the biochemistry of the tree of life as far back as we can reasonably extrapolate it. I honestly think it may be the hardest problem there is in science - and one of the most fun!
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I'm pretty sure humans will die out from humankind's greed, rigid beliefs and all kinds of partying, entertainment and stupidity before we even get ourselves out of this solar system.

This hypothetically pessimistic, the witness of human history is we adapt and change.

Humanity will eventually die out when our star matures and cooks the earth. If we manage to move on in some way humanity may survive through technology.That is the only certainty in the human future.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member

McDoogins

Member
You can't know everything, and even if you did, "everything" denotes there is a or more then a "nothings"

Once there is a thing that is a "nothing" it becomes potentially real or stays "a nothing"
Finally, if that "nothing" was unknowable it would be the thing that is "nothing"

I dipped my toes in Sartres Existentialism, I wouldn't recommend unless you can take in philosophy without becoming emotionally invested.

@exchemist: I like your avatar, it denotes choice.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
Do you think we’ll ever reach the end of scientific knowledge, before all life in the universe dies?
And where will this knowledge get us......will all life in the universe eventually die anyway?
Or is it too early to tell?
And do you think many present day scientists have thought about the end (or not) of science?

Even if we approached such a point, how could we possibly know if we know everything there is to know or not?
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Do you think we’ll ever reach the end of scientific knowledge, before all life in the universe dies?
And where will this knowledge get us......will all life in the universe eventually die anyway?
Or is it too early to tell?
And do you think many present day scientists have thought about the end (or not) of science?

Science isn't the thing to be discovered. Science is the method we use to satisfy our curiosity about the things we want to discover. Will we run out of things to discover before the end of the universe?

Probably not. We will run out of US before the universe ends, I'm pretty certain, but will there be stuff that needs uncovering? I'm pretty sure that there will be, whether WE will be around to uncover them or not, and the methods used to figure things out? Yeah. That will still be around.

Even if there isn't anybody to use it, the 'scientific method' will remain as one way to learn about stuff.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Even if we find 'correct' laws of physics, there will still be the elaboration and testing of those laws. There will always be the question of what happens at the next decimal point. There will always be the question of how to deal with yet another outside influence, how to calculate a better approximate solution, etc.

So, no, I don't think science will ever end.
 
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