Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
It is worth dropping a line to your local MP? I volunteer for Age UK, but I don't know if they've done anything on this particular issue.
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THE ENFORCERS ARE COMING..... FOR OLDBADGER!
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It is worth dropping a line to your local MP? I volunteer for Age UK, but I don't know if they've done anything on this particular issue.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Good moves!
A dozen years ago I sent part of the package to Age Concern, but they did nothing, did not even acknowledge my two letters. Age UK may do better!
The other thing..... in order to stop letters to my mother I made the call, so I never discovered just how far this bunch of bully-boys do push it.
I was a commercial detective so I'm just the bloke to gather as much as possible. I can write about it here without compromising my investigation.
This might be 'over-the-top' but I wonder if such treatment of very elderly, or care-in-community patients might have lead to suicides? I'm not banging that drum hard, but I do wonder, now.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
There are a lot of vunerable people out there. Other things that bother me are door-to-door salesmen and companies doing cold calls on the phone.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You know, Id rather have that than someone invading and threatening your house and home over a stupid tv set.
The ability to record shows & skip commercials has really improved things.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
I'm not trying to say it's better.
But you do realize that the problems with ad-supported, profit driven newscasts go far beyond the annoyance of the commercials themselves, right? Because frankly, if I HAD to pick my poison, I'd take some stupid bureaucrats looking for a tv over that. it's over in relatively short order and doesn't screw up the entire society.
I think we have very different standards of "invading and threatening," though.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Could be. Yet still, the notion of someone uninvited physically entering your home and conducting searches imo crosses the line with exception to bonofide causes where safety and security to life and well being is at stake. Not tv sets. I guess in Europe its par for course on something that the public would never tolerate here in the us. I think it would be culture shock to have such an experience occur over an entertainment item.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
No? They have relatively cordial bureaucrats checking to see if there's a taxed item with unpaid taxes. We have SWAT teams tossing explosives without even looking, to find out if someone who knows the homeowner and might sell pot is present. And if a toddler gets mutilated, the department "regrets the incident," but "supports our officers and their actions." Good luck paying for the artificial coma and extensive surgeries.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Although a serious point (a baby got mutilated in a stun-grenade incident a few months back), I had this ridiculous dream last night that the Telly Enforcers chucked a stun grenade into our lounge and then came through our front window, which cost a fortune to double-glaze because it has a domed top! That annoyed me so much that it woke me up. They all wore black body-armour, etc! Crazy......
A couple years ago, I heard Mrs Revolt answer the door, & answer some odd questions about our home. I investigated, & found county aparatchick who was searching for "improvements" which would allow a ***** ****** tax increase. He was particularly interested in the large barn out back. I stated it was there when we bought the place 25 ******* years ago. I stated that the ****** township used this barn as a pretext for an illegal ******** 55% property tax increased a few years ago. I then instructed the ***** ******* ***** off my ********* property, & followed him to his ****** vehicle, ordering the ***** ****** to get his ***** ****** ***** off my ******* property, & to tell his ****** boss to take a ******* ***** at a ******* ******* ****rolling donut. He ran like a scalded dog, tail between his legs, & yelping lame protestations. He deserved it. I felt better. My home is my castle...visitors should bring either a warrant or a smile.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Our home is hardly a castle, more of a hovel, but I won't be hanging out flags for these telly enforcer folks ......
I don't mind a quid pro quo session where I give an answer and then they do, or something like that, but if they bust that rule then they are gone. My questions will run something like.
1. Can I see your Identity card. Can I take its details or simply photograph it for speed?
2. What is your Enforcement manager's address?
3. What is your Enforcement manager's telephone number?
4. Is your computer system 100% reliable?
5. If I had I a licence, would your system know if you put this address in?
6. If you did the above and there was a licence, would you know the licence number?
7. Would you know when it got paid, and when it will expire?
8. Since I do have a licence, and renew it every year, and since your system is infallible......how, FGS, have you wasted so much time and expense in harassing and threatening me?
9. Do you do this to the elderly, the infirm, the blind, care-in-community patients, the insecure and the timid, all similar to my mother who you did this to in 2001?
10. Do you know what I'm going to about this inept, incompetent and harassing conduct which your dept has exhibited? .......
..... sort of thing.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
But....... I gotta tel you this, Revolting...... our Govmnt did do the right thing a good many years ago when it withdrew the Telly Enforcer's warrants, probably because they had thrown their weight about too much........
But I can't wait to see what a Telly Enforcer looks like. Do they wear a uniform? Will s/he have a clipboard.... an ID card on a pendant.... High viz coat... ?? you can't look genuine without a clipboard... I know because I often relied upon clipboards etc. They've GOT to have a serious looking vehicle with TV Licensing Authority marked all over it to attract suitable attention from other neighbours etc..... and to mentally subdue the target addressee..... I do hope so 'cos my photos will have more impact then.
Of course, it might have all been bulldsust and they don't actually do anything.... we'll see.
But I can't wait to see what a Telly Enforcer looks like. Do they wear a uniform? Will s/he have a clipboard.... an ID card on a pendant.... High viz coat... ?? you can't look genuine without a clipboard... I know because I often relied upon clipboards etc. They've GOT to have a serious looking vehicle with TV Licensing Authority marked all over it to attract suitable attention from other neighbours etc..... and to mentally subdue the target addressee..... I do hope so 'cos my photos will have more impact then.
Of course, it might have all been bulldsust and they don't actually do anything.... we'll see.
ScottySatan
Well-Known Member
I remember this. I didn't have a TV and they kept sending the letters. They indicated it was because their records showed I hadn't paid. I didn't have a tv so I just ignored them. The letters got increasingly threatening like you say, but we had no tv in the house so I didn't worry. They threatened to come investigate and my plan was to not let them in the door, because they're not police. I was going to make them come with police and a search warrant. They never came. The weird thing is that they claimed they would leave me alone if I wrote them back and told them I didn't have a tv. So, they accuse me of theft, but would believe me if I told them I didn't do it? strange. I wouldn't write them, reasoning that if I didn't have to write the government that I didn't own a gun and therefore didn't have to pay a license fee, I shouldn't have to do it for a TV.
By the way, you only need a license if you stream bbc live on your computer, and not if you just use the iPlayer.
When I later got a tv, I was glad to pay the license fee because of no commercials. A 30-minute tv show is 30 minutes, not 20 minutes with 10 of ads. That's more than I can tolerate.
By the way, you only need a license if you stream bbc live on your computer, and not if you just use the iPlayer.
When I later got a tv, I was glad to pay the license fee because of no commercials. A 30-minute tv show is 30 minutes, not 20 minutes with 10 of ads. That's more than I can tolerate.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I like the cheque response!
You remind me of a run-in I had with the cops in the 70's!
In England we needed a 'Permit to Acquire' black powder which I needed for my old 8 bore. One day a cop telephoned to say 'Your permit has run out, do you still have any black powder? I said 'Yes'. 25 minutes later two cops were pounding on the door, with one out in the street. This utterly useless Sergeant was all excited because at last (he thought) he had caught somebody committing a serious offence.
They were preparing to arrest me (I thought) when I asked this idiot 'Exactly what offence have you in mind?' He replied 'Keeping an explosive substance without a licence!'
I explained the the Permit was only a permit to ACQUIRE the stuff, (no other licence existed then) and since I had not used much the previous year I did not need to ACQUIRE any more.
The other cop (who was just a witness) looked at this sergeant like he was a true tw-t and they all left.
I later got a very vicious letter from the cops and a new Permit to acquire 4 oz of black powder, just so that I had a permit..... I was holding about 2 lbs of the stuff!!
I wanted to send the permit back 'cos it was frivolous and they obviously still didn't understand BP Permits, but in those days I didn't have the stomach for the ensuing fight against officialdom.
I hope Revolting doesn't read this.... too much joy might upset his stomach or something.....
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hi.....
Isn't amazing how other folks on RF have been subjected to this nonsense as well as me?
I wonder how much it costs just in employees, paper, ink, envelopes, postal services....... how many tress a year does it cost to send this utter crap out to folks....... to upset them?
The BBC is much too big for its boots, and most employees will have become institutionalised and thus, blind.
The BBC should send all of its staff on 'Customer Care' courses so as to re-establish their 'REASONS FOR EXISTENCE'
Embarrassing a dim witted cop? Tis a Festivus miracle!I like the cheque response!
You remind me of a run-in I had with the cops in the 70's!
In England we needed a 'Permit to Acquire' black powder which I needed for my old 8 bore. One day a cop telephoned to say 'Your permit has run out, do you still have any black powder? I said 'Yes'. 25 minutes later two cops were pounding on the door, with one out in the street. This utterly useless Sergeant was all excited because at last (he thought) he had caught somebody committing a serious offence.
They were preparing to arrest me (I thought) when I asked this idiot 'Exactly what offence have you in mind?' He replied 'Keeping an explosive substance without a licence!'
I explained the the Permit was only a permit to ACQUIRE the stuff, (no other licence existed then) and since I had not used much the previous year I did not need to ACQUIRE any more.
The other cop (who was just a witness) looked at this sergeant like he was a true tw-t and they all left.
I later got a very vicious letter from the cops and a new Permit to acquire 4 oz of black powder, just so that I had a permit..... I was holding about 2 lbs of the stuff!!
I wanted to send the permit back 'cos it was frivolous and they obviously still didn't understand BP Permits, but in those days I didn't have the stomach for the ensuing fight against officialdom.
I hope Revolting doesn't read this.... too much joy might upset his stomach or something.....
<snicker> <snicker> A permit to buy a little black powder? <snicker> You guys are so whipped!
Wirey
Fartist
In Canada you have to get your fingerprints double checked to watch a movie with a gun in it. I went to see "Commando" in 1985 and my fingertips are still blue.
They're always take'n me fingerprints here for sumthin or other......it if ain't me concealed carry license, it's for ID to fly on a danged airline. They always need new ones cuz they must lose'm regularly, & cuz no one arm of gov shares info with another....or they just like mess'n with me.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
All this happines could mess up your digestion, Revolting!
That was 40 years ago! You can get BP licences (or whatever you need today) because Cap n Ball pistols are just about the only handguns allowed in the British Isles.... but I'll bet it's a difficult process to go through.
I had an idea that BP was banned in the US..... ? Can you clear that one up? It's mighty blasting powder, that stuff, but burns slowly in a gun.... more of a whooooffff than a bang.
You can snicker away, you snickering old Michanistanian, but we still do have stupid cops. My dear Lord.... the stories I could tell.......