The Equal Rights Amendment...What Do You Think Of It?

[tytlyf]

It is biologically impossible , at this time, for the sex(s) to be equal no matter what government says.

You don't understand equality.

 

[Father Heathen]

The kind of vicious disparagement that is common in political comedy.
Tom

So comparing a black woman to an ape has no racial connotations?

 

[Father Heathen]

You don't understand equality.

Or much of anything, really.

 

[esmith]

What does biological difference have to do with everyone having the same rights and freedoms?

You do realize that my post directed a @tytlyf was just being factious don't you?

 

[Father Heathen]

You do realize that my post directed a @tytlyf was just being factious don't you?

In all honesty, it's hard to tell when your posts are supposed to be serious or not.

 

[esmith]

Well, they are red.

No, not all.

 

[Father Heathen]

No, not all.

They haven't been indoctrinated yet.

 

[esmith]

So comparing a black woman to an ape has no racial connotations?

There were non-apes in the movie and well as in the squeals. So one would have to be a mind reader to say the comment referenced apes. Go see the movie.

 

[MountainPine]

We often see our country as being synonymous with freedom itself, but since our forefathers failed to fully live up to that, let's just stop pretending, toss the constitution in the trash, and install that theocracy you've been itching for anyway.

Let's stop pretending that women would rather work than to be traditional housewives and stay-at-home mothers (which is the way it has been for centuries). Let us stop pretending that "equality" constitutes giving equal pay to women and so-called "minorities" who don't work as hard as men do.

Tell you what, hire an entire working field of female steel workers and construction workers and compare their functionality to male workers. If their efficiency and work are equal to the men's then I will be convinced.

 

[esmith]

In all honesty, it's hard to tell when your posts are supposed to be serious or not.

I would think by now if I respond to a certain member in a certain way and not use a link to support my comment you would know I'm not being serious unless the comment is addressed only to that person directly.

 

[MountainPine]

It is biologically impossible , at this time, for the sex(s) to be equal no matter what government says.

Well said, esmith, well said!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Let's stop pretending that women would rather work than to be traditional housewives and stay-at-home mothers

I would rather work, and I don't plan on having any kids because I don't want any. "Traditional housewife" is labor exploitation, assumes women are incompetent of things outside of the house, and that men are lazy slobs who need someone to pick up after them.

Let us stop pretending that "equality" constitutes giving equal pay to women and so-called "minorities" who don't work as hard as men do.

I know plenty of women who do work way harder than most men. One of my friends, she does roofing and construction, is damn good at them. One of my clients, he can work but doesn't want to and even admitted to me that he doesn't want to get a job because it would ruin his free ride ticket. I have other clients, both male and female, who want to work but can't due to physical and/or mental impairments.

Well said, esmith, well said!

Under the law, ideally we should be equal and can be equal. Of course there are some inherent differences that biologically make men and women unequal (such as men are usually taller and women are usually more flexible), but when it comes to the application and enforcement of the law there is no reason or excuse we shouldn't be equal.

 

[Nakosis]

I'm not convinced the ERA will change that...or anything.

Consider the military draft:
Only men are eligible.
Is this a denial or abridgement of our rights?
Government would argue no because it's just men's obligation to serve.
That is if we have a low lottery number, are the right age, are healthy,
aren't transgender, aren't in the clergy, or don't have an exempt religion.
Id est, we lose no right by being forced to serve in the military.

I find the language of the amendment both vague & redundant under
current federal law.

I take it you see it as unnecessary? Or how do you think the wording should be altered to make it effective?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I find the language of the amendment both vague & redundant under
current federal law.

Well, considering it was first introduced nearly a century ago such vagueness would have including things such as voting, equal access to education, and other gains that came around the same time or after it was first introduced. But, I agree that is it is worded it would be redundant under current federal law.

 

[Nakosis]

It is biologically impossible , at this time, for the sex(s) to be equal no matter what government says.

I don't think we're asking for that. We are really just asking for equal treatment under the law. Enforcing the ideal that justice is blind.

 

[MountainPine]

I don't think we're asking for that. We are really just asking for equal treatment under the law. Enforcing the ideal that justice is blind.

What are you talking about? Women have been treated fairly for longer than you think! Only feminists will have you think otherwise.

 

[Nakosis]

What are you talking about? Women have been treated fairly for longer than you think! Only feminists will have you think otherwise.

I was actually referring to men getting equal treatment.

 

[Revoltingest]

you sure????

It's good that I'm not a celebrity.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why should congress be appointing itself the right to enforce (or not) this amendment? Shouldn't that be under judicial oversight? Let me guess, it's because they want their wealthy cronies to be able to pay them not to enforce it whenever they please.

It's typical of constitutional amendments protecting rights to give
Congress the explicit ability to make laws enforcing it, eg, the 26th....

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older,
to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

 

[MountainPine]

I was actually referring to men getting equal treatment.

Never mind then. Disregard what I said.