You said they "would never" be treated this way. I showed that to be wrong. Now you want to quibble over rates and ratios.
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the ethics of child brides -- modern slavery
- Thread starter IndigoChild5559
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epronovost
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You said they "would never" be treated this way. I showed that to be wrong. Now you want to quibble over rates and ratios.
It was also a generality not a literal statement. **mod edit**Men, as a class, are not treated like merchandise/servants, but women still are in some places in the world and were historicaly speaking in most of the world. Also, if you want to be literal, men are never victim of child marriage since only boys and girls can be victim of it, but again, that's not what you meant either. The huge gender imbalance as to whom fall victim to child marriage and forced marriage isn't a weird happenstance either.
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Thanks for explaining this to me, as I obviously lack a brain and cannot read or comprehend anything. You even told me what I meant in my own post, out of the goodness of your heart. I surely needed your help. Next time, just tell me what to write, please. Thank you.
(Buzz off. I don't need your help.)
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I agree. It's a real problem. I don't know how we can justifiy it -- if they are not old enough to consent to sex with these men, how can it be that they are mature enough to consent to marriage, which means not only sex, but the raising of children and other adult responsibilities.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
So you just wnat to ignore the fact that girls get the shaft far worse than boys? That doesn't matter to you? Okay, you have identified yourself.
I wasn't addressing that. I objected to your claim that
such things never happen to boys. Are you going to
ignore that? St Frank proved you wrong with just
a single example.
Sometimes independent things are discussed. To
deal with one doesn't mean taking a position on others.
BTW, you introduced this line of discussion in the OP.
With your claim debunked, what is it that you want
to debate? I don't see anything else to argue about.
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Leahpolitan_icecream
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firedragon
Veteran Member
This is the one question every one must fight for. All over the world. Even children are old enough to "consent", there has to be an age limit.
Hmm. Young girls cant enter a pub. Young girls cant get a bloody driving licence. But they can be married off, "consent" or not, have sex at 14 with consent in some countries. They should also let them get a driving licence because they "consent".
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I never said that bad things never happen to boys. Please do not misrepresent me. thanks.
No, you said "men", which sounds like moving the goalposts when you were discussing young girls. Since you apparently want to be so pedantic and all...
You think I'm trying to misrepresent you.
But to me it appears that you're trying to walk
back a misandrist attitude with bogus claims.
And the straw man argument that anyone
would claim women aren't human is histrionic.
From your OP (underlining added)....
And lest we think that it is different in the enlightened West, most Western countries and states allow for child marraige if the parents consent to it (read push it). Men who would be thrown into jail for statutory rape if they have sex with these girls are given the green light to the same behavior if they marry her. And the child who we concede is not old enough to consent to sex with an adult male is irrationally considered mature enough to consent to a lifelong committed relationship involving sex, children, etc. It makes no sense.
Folks, I shouldn't need to say this, but women are human beings too with all the rights that human beings have. Men would never be treated this way.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
You can play all the semantic games you want. You are still misrepresenting me.
I find him quite sincere & objective.
One might examine one's anti-male bias
to discover just why one encounters objection.
Yerda
Veteran Member
Judging by the last few years it's going in reverse.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Since when is it anti-man to insist that women be treated with the same dignity afforded to men?
That wasn't what you posted.
I addressed the text of the OP.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It is exactly my point.
And yet you saw the need to re-word it
so as to change the meaning to something
easier to defend.
I scoff in your general direction!
Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
Terrible thing.
Most I assume, don't end up in a happy state of life. But I don't really know the anwser.
Any person forced to do something, against their own will, is slavery.
Too many, unfortunately, are being greatly abused.
And somehow the world doesn't deal with it. I simply cannot understand that.
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It is indeed very sad you need to say this.
But it is not true men would never be treated like this.
In our CRAZY world, children are sold as slaves regardless of their gender, and in fact, regardless of being children, babies, adults, or whatever age range you choose.
We are so non-empathic as a society (not individually) we let things get away as long as they don't affect us.
Yet it does.
In my POV, one of the saddest things our humanity, for some reason, accepts. is slavery.
How am I misrepresenting you? I'm certainly am not trying to. I just don't see how else I'm supposed to interpret what you're saying.