The fall of man; Free will

[Thief]

chicken or the egg? What if there wasn't a first person? What if there was no beginning? I believe that our Spirits are as old as God's...

And this relates to Genesis...how?

There are 6billion people now....in regression...we trace back to...one.

I happen to believe my previous postings.

Did you want to rebuttal post #672?

 

[waitasec]

I have not been 'cherry picking'.
I endeavour to consider the whole of the Bible's position and address not just the words but their context and the import and implications that they convey.
　
You, however, have done a fair bit of 'cherry picking' in this conversation and I have had to repeatedly pick you up for dropping words and ideas out of the passages that you have quoted.
And when I have done so, you have reverted to ridicule or simply repeated the same assertion with, or without, another butchered verse.
　
And it is you who have tried to apply everything in the Bible to everyone at everytime.
The strength of your argument, that the Bible is worthless, rests on your claim of an inerrant and universally applicable text.
It is your claim, not mine.
　
I am a believer, but not a believer in your unfounded assertions.

sexism, slavery and homophobia have been perpetuated by the laws of your bible...if you choose to deny that FACT you are beyond the point of being reasoned with

 

[waitasec]

'The fact that women are more religious than men is one of the most consistent findings in the sociology of religion.

I believe that, scripturally, women are more likely to be deceived by religious fakery than men.
　
If I beleive that because the scripture says so, it should be no concern to you.
You should believe it also, because the most recent research into the psychology and sociology of religion confirms the Bible's pronouncement.
　
And again, for the record, I think men and women are equal.

looks like you don't know what you believe

 

[jonman122]

And this relates to Genesis...how?

There are 6billion people now....in regression...we trace back to...one.

I happen to believe my previous postings.

Did you want to rebuttal post #672?

we don't trace back to one person no, in fact i'm fairly sure science has shown that if you put 1 man and 1 woman on a planet alone together in a place where they could thrive together indefinitely, the race would still die out. 2 just isn't nearly enough, you'd need like 10 women and 1 man. that would give your race a chance for survival, as you wouldnt have excessive inbreeding and deformations until your race died out.

 

[dmgdnooc]

Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jonman122]

I have not been 'cherry picking'.
I endeavour to consider the whole of the Bible's position and address not just the words but their context and the import and implications that they convey.
　
You, however, have done a fair bit of 'cherry picking' in this conversation and I have had to repeatedly pick you up for dropping words and ideas out of the passages that you have quoted.
And when I have done so, you have reverted to ridicule or simply repeated the same assertion with, or without, another butchered verse.
　
And it is you who have tried to apply everything in the Bible to everyone at everytime.
The strength of your argument, that the Bible is worthless, rests on your claim of an inerrant and universally applicable text.
It is your claim, not mine.
　
I am a believer, but not a believer in your unfounded assertions.

This almost made me cry it was so hilarious. Who made the 'unfounded assertion' that Adam even cared at all if he ate the apple that Eve gave him? Where in the bible does it tell of him having a moral dilemna about it? Not a single place at all. You threw in tons of crap that you pulled out of your rectum, and now you are trying to place that blame on someone else? FOR SHAME, FOR SHAME.

 

[jonman122]

Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

logic fail on your part, as if this has some kind of point.

Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived thousands of years apart.
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[dmgdnooc]

Well, its fact fail for you.
I have not argued for a literal acceptance of early Genesis, you have.
And your argument requires literality in order that you can discredit the true things that Genesis relates concerning human nature and our relationship with God.

 

[Thief]

we don't trace back to one person no, in fact i'm fairly sure science has shown that if you put 1 man and 1 woman on a planet alone together in a place where they could thrive together indefinitely, the race would still die out. 2 just isn't nearly enough, you'd need like 10 women and 1 man. that would give your race a chance for survival, as you wouldnt have excessive inbreeding and deformations until your race died out.

Here is your requirement for a gene pool.
Day Six...Man is created as a species.

Chapter Two of Genesis....the isolated experiment that altered the body of Man, and became the source of what we are now.

 

[waitasec]

Here is your requirement for a gene pool.
Day Six...Man is created as a species.

Chapter Two of Genesis....the isolated experiment that altered the body of Man, and became the source of what we are now.

what a wonderful example of using religion to do all the thinking for you