The Feral Class

[Viker]

I 'unno...

I don't object to being feral.

Feral cats are intelligent, and resourceful. I'm fine with being classified with them.

Meh. I'm like an indoor/outdoor cat. I like me some AC and stereo when I'm not outside camping and playing rugged outdoors "expert".

 

[JustGeorge]

Meh. I'm like an indoor/outdoor cat. I like me some AC and stereo when I'm not outside camping and playing rugged outdoors "expert".

I'm an indoor cat staring longingly out the window at the other ferals playing in the bushes.

 

[Balthazzar]

What do you mean by feral?

Typically, feral types stand apart from many aspects of modern society. It was also suggested that the definition of feral is an animal that has moved from domestication to a more primitive lifestyle, so by these definitions I will assume the position in that way, and classify them thusly. Hippies, homeless, musicians in many ways, nomad types, bikers, and many others would fit the definition. Migrants also. I suppose, my inquiry was aimed to get a feel of how they were viewed as opposed to anything else. It's an effort in psychology and how sociology applies to possible philosophical ideologies and this is an effort to beat my opponent and make them less effective on the stage, as that stage relates to our ongoing debates. Getting an idea where others are coming from and the way different types of people are viewed by various types of people seems to be something potentially beneficial. Just so you know.

 

[Stevicus]

I'm an indoor cat staring longingly out the window at the other ferals playing in the bushes.

If I was a feral cat, I'd probably be howling loudly at 3a, knocking over garbage cans, and fighting with other feral cats.

I guess that's not much different from what I do here on RF.

 

[rocala]

your contributions are no less invalid than my own.

???
Never said otherwise. I just disagree with you.

If not, then we're wasting time

Having spent quite a bit of my life in communal living, wit and without hippies, I don't feel that I am wasting my time.

 

[JustGeorge]

Typically, feral types stand apart from many aspects of modern society. It was also suggested that the definition of feral is an animal that has moved from domestication to a more primitive lifestyle, so by these definitions I will assume the position in that way, and classify them thusly. Hippies, homeless, musicians in many ways, nomad types, bikers, and many others would fit the definition. Migrants also. I suppose, my inquiry was aimed to get a feel of how they were viewed as opposed to anything else. It's an effort in psychology and how sociology applies to possible philosophical ideologies and this is an effort to beat my opponent and make them less effective on the stage, as that stage relates to our ongoing debates. Getting an idea where others are coming from and the way different types of people are viewed by various types of people seems to be something potentially beneficial. Just so you know.

I think how they're viewed depends on the individual viewing them.

Given your definition, I probably qualify as feral.

I've been met with fascination, fear, lust, revulsion, kind heartedness and cruelty.

As I'm sure many have.

If I was a feral cat, I'd probably be howling loudly at 3a, knocking over garbage cans, and fighting with other feral cats.

I guess that's not much different from what I do here on RF.

Damn it, @Stevicus , stay out of my trash can.

 

[Viker]

 

[Balthazzar]

I'm an indoor cat staring longingly out the window at the other ferals playing in the bushes.

I'm an indoor/outdoor type of humanoid who see's the lake and open waters and woods and fields as an escape from social congestion and the toxicity of that type of environmental influence. The good news is, I'm vaccinated and I'm building up immunities from corporate America and other aspects of modern society.

 

[Balthazzar]

???
Never said otherwise. I just disagree with you.

Having spent quite a bit of my life in communal living, wit and without hippies, I don't feel that I am wasting my time.

Me either

 

[JustGeorge]

I'm an indoor/outdoor type of humanoid who see's the lake and open waters and woods and fields as an escape from social congestion and the toxicity of that type of environmental influence. The good news is, I'm vaccinated and I'm building up immunities from corporate America and other aspects of modern society.

Your immunity is important. Good work.

 

[Viker]

Hippies, homeless, musicians in many ways, nomad types, bikers, and many others would fit the definition

I'd consider them nomadic and not feral. And I'm a biker, just not incredibly nomadic and too (spoiled)"civilized".

Feral still implies animalistic and completely removed from civilization to most people. This is why there's some confusion and communication mishap going on.

 

[Stevicus]

Damn it, @Stevicus , stay out of my trash can.

I'm on a quest to find the Holy Grail. I thought it might be in there.

 

[JustGeorge]

I'm on a quest to find the Holy Grail. I thought it might be in there.

I have sitting in my bay window in the meditation room(as opposed to the bay window in my bathroom, which might also get used as a meditation room).

 

[Viker]

I'm an indoor/outdoor type of humanoid who see's the lake and open waters and woods and fields as an escape from social congestion and the toxicity of that type of environmental influence. The good news is, I'm vaccinated and I'm building up immunities from corporate America and other aspects of modern society.

I live in the edge of a forest. I love it.

 

[ChristineM]

Typically, feral types stand apart from many aspects of modern society. It was also suggested that the definition of feral is an animal that has moved from domestication to a more primitive lifestyle, so by these definitions I will assume the position in that way, and classify them thusly. Hippies, homeless, musicians in many ways, nomad types, bikers, and many others would fit the definition. Migrants also. I suppose, my inquiry was aimed to get a feel of how they were viewed as opposed to anything else. It's an effort in psychology and how sociology applies to possible philosophical ideologies and this is an effort to beat my opponent and make them less effective on the stage, as that stage relates to our ongoing debates. Getting an idea where others are coming from and the way different types of people are viewed by various types of people seems to be something potentially beneficial. Just so you know.

I know what you are talking about, a label...

My parents are hippies. They gave me the best start in life any parents could give their child. I don't see them as feral. In fact, i use there methods of care and love to raise my own children.

I guy i chat to who visits the village every couple of months appears to be what you consider feral, i.e. homeless. He likes to walk, to take in the beauty of the south east Dordogne through the different seasons. Looks to be a scruff, homeless person, here abouts he is known as "le clochard" (the hobo), no such luck, he owns a château and has no need to do anything other than what he wants.

I know a few feral cats, 2 live with me now. And one calls in for food and flea treatment. They are intelligent and caring, not at all like the horror stories people spread about "chat errant"

Feral is a difficult label to put on anyone. Personally i see people as people.

 

[JustGeorge]

Feral is a difficult label to put on anyone. Personally i see people as people.

I think we'd do better with less labels and more humanity, really.

 

[Balthazzar]

I have a brother who is seriously mentally ill and also addicted to substances that are illegal for a reason. Though I would probably classify him as feral, he wouldn't at all. He has joined a group of people who are below him in my opinion but he won't listen to me. I mean, he has a college degree and I don't think many or any of that group do. He called me late one night and he was high or drunk or something and he was going on and on about how dangerous this particular group of people were, but then the next day they are his best friends again. So hmmmmm....anyway, he fits two of the three danger zones but he wouldn't say he's FERAL. So that's that.

I think he's homeless right now but he hasn't always been.

Seriously mentally ill would be common to some people unaccustomed to specific personality types. Other types see many of them quite differently. It's a dangerous world and although hierarchy and status seem important, others see them as obstacles the higher you go on the stepping stones. I've not always lived like this, but I've taken the position that it's best to live below my means than to live above my means, or to live according to them. I suppose this affords me both limitations and certain liberties. Social stigma is difficult to escape from and proving oneself is rarely an easy effort.

 

[HonestJoe]

They may not. I was curious, though.

I still don't see how you can ask about a group of people when you can't identify actual examples of but also can't clearly define and now can't even say they even exist.

I'm not saying this is the case for you, but it feels like situations where people create a poorly defined negative label that they can attribute to pretty much anyone to put them down. I'd like to think you'd want to avoid creating that kind of impression.

 

[Alien826]

I'm not sure modern humans have the ability to be feral in the sense that a cat does. A cat still has claws, teeth and the ability to hunt with just it's body and can revert to living like a genuine "wild" cat. Humans really can't live and feed themselves (and be protected from extreme weather) in a truly primitive environment.

Nevertheless there seems to be a need for word to describe certain people who live on the fringes of society, so maybe we have to adjust the meaning of "feral" when applied to humans?

 

[Balthazzar]

I still don't see how you can ask about a group of people when you can't identify actual examples of but also can't clearly define and now can't even say they even exist.

I'm not saying this is the case for you, but it feels like situations where people create a poorly defined negative label that they can attribute to pretty much anyone to put them down. I'd like to think you'd want to avoid creating that kind of impression.

I'd like to think viewers are observant enough to acknowledge no negative connotations in my inquiry or my comments about.