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Well Uravip2me, you have posted your version and I have posted my version. Humm? First of all there is no way that our beloved Lord and Savior is going to be shooting arrows at folks because He doesn't need to. All He has to do is show up and everything changes. The righteous warrior Jesus? The Jewish followers of Lord Jesus thought the same thing, but that did not happen. Yes Lord Jesus well return and usher in a thousand years of peace after which all hell will break loose again. But this thousand years of peace is not going to happen with Him commanding an army of folks that are running around killing other folks, good or bad. If you truely knew our beloved Lord and Savior, you would know that that is just not His style. And scripture claims that evil is done in by natural disaster and one hundred pound chunks of hail from heaven with that hail resulting in the victors standing on glass which means that that hail has enough heat to it that it causes the desesrt sand to turn to glass. And that hail and those natural distasters come from God, not from Jesus. Yes after God says "Hello" and evil is brought to its knees Lord Jesus will show up and supervise a peace that will last "one thousand years". Ater that things will become a mess again, a mess that will almost distroy everything.
What you are proposing here Uravip2me is a human army fighting side by side with the gods against an enemy that has absolutely "no" power without God's permission. Or maybe a divine army that shows up that is commanded by Lord Jesus. But, Lord Jesus does not need an army, all He needs is permission from the will of God. And Lord Jesus said that He would be right back "if it be My Father's will". That was over two thousand years ago. Revelation says that God is going to do what it says that He is going to do. What is doen't say is that these things will only happen if it is God's will. And it doesn't have to say that because everybody knows that already, it is a given. And the only folks that are safe are the 144,000 that are chosen from the twelve tribes of Israel. The rest of us are kind of on our own and hoping for the best and "oh well". And an angel poured a vial of some sort of stuff on Earth and a whole bunch of animals died. They didn't die and are dying because some angel poured some stuff out of a vial, most of them died and are dying because humankind really screwed up the Earth's environment. And Revelation says a lot of things that are different than what you think they are. The Dragon of Prosperity/the Red Dragon is a classic example of this. It is a form of cheap energy that no other energy can compete with and its formula is written right there in Revelation for everybody to see. "And a wonder appeared in Heaven", A cheap sourse of energy that is environmentally safe unless the reactor is broken open by an earthquake and radio active Iodine (red) is strewn all over the place. Which Revelation says will happen, but it doesn't have too. And this Dragon of Prosperity that is a wonder from Heaven only quits being a wonder from Heaven when folks are forced to wear a mark in order to participate in its gift. And that does not have to happen either if folks understand ahead of time what it is that is going on.
If prophecy is actually understood, then you can change things before they happen. Maybe not all of it, but you can change parts of it. Yep it can be done.
Having a crown and being given a crown are different.
Jesus received his crown before he ascended to Heaven Matthew 28:18 Why then does scripture say he was given it during the Lord's Day which you say is the present? Revelation 1:10
Jesus received all authority at his resurrection. Correct? Then what does the crown "being given" picture in 1914? Why does it say he is "given a crown"? You assume the rider was given it by Jehovah. Why? What evidence have you that in 1914 Jehovah finally gave Jesus his crown?
. Now as an example of one of the things that I am concerned about is that a significant part of the US is Protestant Christian and their tradition maintains that the Dragon of Prosperity/Red Dragon and the forumula for the Beast (uranium oxyiodide) that that prosperity is founded on is of Satan and therefore evil. Because of this belief in their tradition the US of America is going to be at a sever disadvantage when it comes to competing with the rest of the world because of the high cost of energy that US will have to pay because Protestant Christians will not allow it to be used as an energy source in the US. I maintain that the Beast of the Dragon of Prosperity is not evil or of Satan. I maintain that "those people" that force folks to wear a mark/bar code to participate in the prosperity are the evil that prophecy is talking about, not the energy source. And we in the US can use this energy source without having to wear a mark because we as a nation can refuse to wear the mark. The other nations in today's world not so much . But we can as a nation refuse if we wish to. I do not think that there needs to be any conflict in the US over the use of the Beast as an energy source until our govenment requires that we wear a mark, which I honestly do not think that it will.
You and I both agree that we are in the last days, it is just that we both have different reasons for believing that we are in the last days. With that said, all prophecy is written so that it can not be understood until it is actually happening or has happened. The reason for this is, because if it was understood earlier then folks would change what happens and the things that prophecy was predicting would not happen as predicted. Uravip2me, your interpretation of prophecy does not enable anyone to change prophecy in any way which then means that what prophecy is predicting/foretelling is not yet happening or has not yet happened. My version of interpretation of prophecy fits what is happening in todays world and it enables us to prepare for and solve some of the problems that are going to be presented to us in the near future. If of course I am correct
So Uravip2me (and any others that wish to), what are your thoughts on my concern, if of course I am correct on my interpretation of Protestant Christian prophecy? Is the use of the Beast in itself evil?
, I apologize for asking you a version of the above question (post 29) . Because, you are not a Protestant and your version of Christianity considers Protestants and other organized Christian movements to be of Satan. And it is also against the beliefs of your version of Christianity to participate in the government of any country or to suport the government of any country unless you legally have to (you have to obey the laws of the country that you reside in except of course when religion is outlawed in that country). So again, I apologize to you for asking you that question because that question does not apply to you and Jay Dee Dee as members of the Jehovah Witness version of Christianity. And because of your approach to prophecy your religious beliefs are not going to consider the use of Uranium Oxy-Iodide as an energy source to be evil or in and of itself of Satan other than most everything about this world is of Satan until Lord Jesus returns and streightens things out and creates an earthly paradise for the followers of your religion to live in. The rest of us not so much. . Oh and this, Magogs and Gogs/gagas. A magog is the maker of gogs and a gog is a person who blindly follows a leader or the leaders of a religious or political organization or movement. And a gog will do and believe whatever the leader (magog) or leaders (magogs) tell them to believe or to do. Welcome to today's world and world wide social media and the perfect environment for creating a mutitude of Magogs and their follower Gogs. Things are now getting interesting , in my opinion of course.
Yes I know. That is why I say the first horse's rider is someone else. Jesus authority was given him directly after his resurrection. Crown denotes authority. He in fact DID go away from people's consciousnesses and whenever anyone seeks him in faith to follow him he comes back to that person. Do you NOT believe that he came to Paul? Acts of the Apostles 9:3-6
Yes. That doesn't mean that there is only one crown given. If anyone else gets one it isn't from Jehovah. Correct?
I agree and believe you are correct, the rider on the white horse in Rev, 6 is not Jesus. This rider on the white horse is the first of four listed who are sent out by the Lamb (but it is not the Lamb, Christ who goes out )after He opens one of the seals in judgment during the tribulation (Rev. 6:1-2). Revelation 19:11-21 later shows that: Jesus does come on a white horse, but He does not come alone, He is followed by the armies of heaven also on white horses and He comes at the end of the tribulation to destroy the beast, false prophet, and the wicked armies of the world.
. I might be treading on dangerious ground here, which wouldn't be good . It is the Antichrist that turns a wonder that appeared in Heaven into a way to control people and the world. The wonder that appeared in Heaven is not evil in itself, it is how this wonder is used for personal power by the Antichrist that is the evil. InChrist, of course I might be wrong about this, I am not the Bible scholar that you guys are. I am more of a student of science that is attempting to give Scripture some validity in science. Uranium Oxy-Iodide is real, but at the sametime a formula for a version of it being discribed in Revelation might just be a coincidence and may not actually have anything to do with prophecy. But anyway, just for fun, InChrist where is the Scripture that says that our Lord and Savior destroys the Beast?