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The good news of Gods kingdom-Matt 24:14

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Paul and Barnabas went to Jerusalem to the governing body( apostles-elders) to settle the matter of circumcision--The matter was settled a Follower of Christ need not be circumcised.
Few understand what no part of the world entails. Like no voting for corrupt politicians, no partaking of pagan filled world holidays, and things like that.
The idea that God's kingdom is to come to the earth is such a wonderful promise and thought. I am happy that God reached me with that thought. I'm sure you are, too. And all of God's servants are happy with that promise! :)
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Paul and Barnabas went to Jerusalem to the governing body( apostles-elders) to settle the matter of circumcision--The matter was settled a Follower of Christ need not be circumcised.
Few understand what no part of the world entails. Like no voting for corrupt politicians, no partaking of pagan filled world holidays, and things like that.
Acts 15:20

20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 15:29

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.



Let's have a Deeper look at the Rulings concerning Gentile Conversion. How do you Interpret the first Ruling? How do you know that you are Not making offerings/Pollutions to Idols? What do you think is an Idol?

The Things of the World are the Works of the Flesh.
 

servant1

Active Member
The idea that God's kingdom is to come to the earth is such a wonderful promise and thought. I am happy that God reached me with that thought. I'm sure you are, too. And all of God's servants are happy with that promise! :)
Yes it will be great for all creation when Gods kingdom rule is in 100% control.
 

servant1

Active Member
Acts 15:20

20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 15:29

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.



Let's have a Deeper look at the Rulings concerning Gentile Conversion. How do you Interpret the first Ruling? How do you know that you are Not making offerings/Pollutions to Idols? What do you think is an Idol?

The Things of the World are the Works of the Flesh.
Idols is most likely false god worship or things that pertain to that. Could as well include putting mortals on pedastels, like sport stars, movie stars, music stars, etc. The satan ruled world parts is what Jesus was speaking about. Works of the flesh is apart of that= pornography, drunkeness, drug addiction, immorality, Greed, etc.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Idols is most likely false god worship or things that pertain to that. Could as well include putting mortals on pedastels, like sport stars, movie stars, music stars, etc. The satan ruled world parts is what Jesus was speaking about. Works of the flesh is apart of that= pornography, drunkeness, drug addiction, immorality, Greed, etc.
No doubt right now in my mind. I used to work for a lawyer who had a pornographic magazine publisher as one of his clients and when I spoke to the lawyer about it because I would not copy the pornographic pictures, his response was that there is freedom of speech on the U.S. And that is somewhat true. God allows some such "freedom" now but will not always allow people to misuse their freedom. Just as He promised Adam and Eve -- they had everything they wanted and needed except Eve was deceived into thinking she could decide for herself what was good or bad. :)
 

servant1

Active Member
No doubt right now in my mind. I used to work for a lawyer who had a pornographic magazine publisher as one of his clients and when I spoke to the lawyer about it because I would not copy the pornographic pictures, his response was that there is freedom of speech on the U.S. And that is somewhat true. God allows some such "freedom" now but will not always allow people to misuse their freedom. Just as He promised Adam and Eve -- they had everything they wanted and needed except Eve was deceived into thinking she could decide for herself what was good or bad. :)
God gave all free will, No man gives it. No killing gives it, God has already given it. God gave all free will, not to misuse it but to choose out of love and respect for their creator to listen to and know his advice is always correct and for our benefit.
Men claim by things like a constitution, or killing others they provide freedom for men. They do not. Men only take freedom away and disguise with false words that they provide freedom.
All have the God given right to chose for self what they will do in all matters. The wise choose Gods advice.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
God gave all free will, No man gives it. No killing gives it, God has already given it. God gave all free will, not to misuse it but to choose out of love and respect for their creator to listen to and know his advice is always correct and for our benefit.
Men claim by things like a constitution, or killing others they provide freedom for men. They do not. Men only take freedom away and disguise with false words that they provide freedom.
All have the God given right to chose for self what they will do in all matters. The wise choose Gods advice.
I have found that to be beneficial in my life. I look forward to the future where I BELIEVE God will restore all things. Take care, nice talking with you.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Idols is most likely false god worship or things that pertain to that. Could as well include putting mortals on pedastels, like sport stars, movie stars, music stars, etc. The satan ruled world parts is what Jesus was speaking about. Works of the flesh is apart of that= pornography, drunkeness, drug addiction, immorality, Greed, etc.
Ezekiel 14:3

3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

2 Corinthians 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.



Certainly these are all Idols that you have listed. Idolatry is Worshiping and Putting anything Above the Only One True Elohim/God. Do you agree that Belief in Another Yeshua/Jesus that the Apostles have Not known and preached is Idolatry? Those So-Called Christians Believing in a False Yeshua/Jesus is Worshipping an Idol, are they not? Those So-Called Christians have Set Up a False Yeshua/Jesus Idol in their Heart.

Every Christian person and organisation thinks that the Yeshua/Jesus they See and Believe is the Right One and that's why you get the Different Denominations. Given that they cannot be all Right, this means Billions have Not Obeyed the first Decree Being Polluted by Idols.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Isaiah 8:16
16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

How do you think you get Sealed? How do you Interpret Isaiah 8:16? Do you see the Sealing of Israel in Revelation 7 to be Ethnic Jews?
Sure, Isaiah had disciples, but Not for himself, his disciples knew God's Law and they chose Not abandon it .
- Since Pentecost, the Law among Jesus' disciples for God is 'the Law of Christ ' - see Galatians 6:2
Not fleshly national Israel, but spiritual Israel ( the Christian congregation no matter where located on Earth )
A spiritual nation that has No borders, nor boundaries found located on any map - 1st Peter 2:9,5
Jesus gave his followers the New Commandment found at John 13:34-35
To have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has
In other words, to now love others More than the old Golden Rule of Leviticus 19:18
Revelation is thus about ' spiritual Israel ' - a spiritual nation - Romans 2:28-29
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yes it will be great for all creation when Gods kingdom rule is in 100% control.
Seems to me a lot of people don't like hearing the word 'control '
But when we look at Mark 4:37-39 we see how Jesus ' regulated ' weather phenomenon - Mark 6:51
A sample that there is nothing beyond Jesus' ability to 'regulate what is best' for Earth and all repenting humanity
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I love 1 Cor 10:13 - 13 Let no temptation take hold on you, but such as is human. And God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that which you are able: but will make also with temptation issue, that you may be able to bear it.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Sure, Isaiah had disciples, but Not for himself, his disciples knew God's Law and they chose Not abandon it .
- Since Pentecost, the Law among Jesus' disciples for God is 'the Law of Christ ' - see Galatians 6:2
Not fleshly national Israel, but spiritual Israel ( the Christian congregation no matter where located on Earth )
A spiritual nation that has No borders, nor boundaries found located on any map - 1st Peter 2:9,5
Jesus gave his followers the New Commandment found at John 13:34-35
To have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has
In other words, to now love others More than the old Golden Rule of Leviticus 19:18
Revelation is thus about ' spiritual Israel ' - a spiritual nation - Romans 2:28-29
Galatians 2:19

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

Leviticus 19:18

18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.



How can you Become Dead to the Law without Practising the Law? How can you be Dead to the Law when you are a Sinner? Sin is the Transgression of the Law.

The Leviticus 19:8 Command is For Children Israel Only Among themselves. What do you think "Against the Children of thy People" means?
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Romans 1:1

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, a called apostle, having been separated to the good news of God --



The Good News of Elohim's/God's Kingdom/Reign is Separation from the Filthiness of the World in Total Devotion to Elohim/God. Anything else is Beguiling Corruption from the Simplicity that is in Messiah/Christ.
 

Feedmysheep

Member
Ezekiel 14:3

3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

2 Corinthians 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.



Certainly these are all Idols that you have listed. Idolatry is Worshiping and Putting anything Above the Only One True Elohim/God. Do you agree that Belief in Another Yeshua/Jesus that the Apostles have Not known and preached is Idolatry? Those So-Called Christians Believing in a False Yeshua/Jesus is Worshipping an Idol, are they not? Those So-Called Christians have Set Up a False Yeshua/Jesus Idol in their Heart.

Every Christian person and organisation thinks that the Yeshua/Jesus they See and Believe is the Right One and that's why you get the Different Denominations. Given that they cannot be all Right, this means Billions have Not Obeyed the first Decree Being Polluted by Idols.
Anything which replaces the Triune God as the uppermost priority in our experience can become an idol.
Anything which can become more important to us than abiding in the realm of the living God might potentially become an idol.

We are in Him who is true- in His Son. This is the true God which nothing should replace, usurp, or rise in our
hearts to a higher importance.

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding that we might know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

Little children, guard yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:20,21)
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Anything which replaces the Triune God as the uppermost priority in our experience can become an idol.
Anything which can become more important to us than abiding in the realm of the living God might potentially become an idol.

We are in Him who is true- in His Son. This is the true God which nothing should replace, usurp, or rise in our
hearts to a higher importance.

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding that we might know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

Little children, guard yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:20,21)
Exodus 32:2-4

2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.

4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.



It's a Mystery that We are All Born Idolators from the Womb because of Adam's Rebellious Inheritance. If you are Hearing the True Elohim/God from a False Perspective/Interpretation than you are Worshipping and Idol, A Golden Calf!.


The Ten Commandments | Creation of Golden Calf
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Ezekiel 14:3

3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

2 Corinthians 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.



Certainly these are all Idols that you have listed. Idolatry is Worshiping and Putting anything Above the Only One True Elohim/God. Do you agree that Belief in Another Yeshua/Jesus that the Apostles have Not known and preached is Idolatry? Those So-Called Christians Believing in a False Yeshua/Jesus is Worshipping an Idol, are they not? Those So-Called Christians have Set Up a False Yeshua/Jesus Idol in their Heart.

Every Christian person and organisation thinks that the Yeshua/Jesus they See and Believe is the Right One and that's why you get the Different Denominations. Given that they cannot be all Right, this means Billions have Not Obeyed the first Decree Being Polluted by Idols.
I was thinking about all the "mystics" in the world and those who claimed to receive messages from whoever -- some here claim to get messages from dead people, others from who knows what, and still others claim messages from God or an unearthly source.
 

Feedmysheep

Member
It's a Mystery that We are All Born Idolators from the Womb because of Adam's Rebellious Inheritance. If you are Hearing the True Elohim/God from a False Perspective/Interpretation than you are Worshipping and Idol, A Golden Calf!.
And we can turn from idols to serve the living God.
. . . you turned to God from the idols to serve a living and true God (1 Thess. 19b)

A good place to start is to go to the Bible to get His speaking.
I always go to the word of God before any movie screenplay.

John's closing remark there shows that this serving of the true God is really living in the realm, the sphere of Him.
I use to think maybe the last verse was added because John round out of space.
Then I realized John was saying anything that replaced knowing and living in the Father and the Son can become an idol.

Notice again what the "This" refers to when he writes verse 20. "This" refers to Father and the Son.
And of course the only way people can be in this realm is by the Holy Spirit.

In this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, that He has given to us of His Spirit. (1 John 4:13)

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding

that we might know Him who is true;
and we are in Him who is true,
in His Son Jesus Christ.
This is the true God and eternal life.

Little children, guard yourselves from idols. (5:20,21)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Seems to me a lot of people don't like hearing the word 'control '
But when we look at Mark 4:37-39 we see how Jesus ' regulated ' weather phenomenon - Mark 6:51
A sample that there is nothing beyond Jesus' ability to 'regulate what is best' for Earth and all repenting humanity
Exactly. I was thinking about the first injunction God gave Adam. Not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And we see what a mess the world is in. Because (1) they were banished from that garden, and (2) mankind is just about to ruin the earth, and (3) how God loved mankind (His creation) so much that He arranged to change the situation.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Exactly. I was thinking about the first injunction God gave Adam. Not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And we see what a mess the world is in. Because (1) they were banished from that garden, and (2) mankind is just about to ruin the earth, and (3) how God loved mankind (His creation) so much that He arranged to change the situation.
Yes, as Revelation 11:18 B reveals that God will bring to ruin (literal and moral) those ruining the Earth
 
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