the good of the Abrahamic religions

[Jayhawker Soule]

I wrote in the past, not now. And i wrote many pagan religions did human sacrifice it in the past, i did not wrote that all pagan religions had human sacrifice in the past

What you wrote was just fine.

Unfortunately, any post on "the good of the Abrahamic religions" is likely to be countered no matter how the OP is worded.

 

[SalixIncendium]

What you wrote was just fine.

Unfortunately, any post on "the good of the Abrahamic religions" is likely to be countered no matter how the OP is worded.

Which, incidentally, was the portion of the post that I did not have a problem with.

But go ahead and build your straw men.

 

[Ebionite]

Regardless of the reason, it was still done.

Disregarding intent leads to poor interpretations.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Disregarding intent leads to poor interpretations.

How does the intent change the interpretation in this case?

 

[F1fan]

The very good of the Abrahamic religions is this:

It is no human sacrifice. In the past many pegan religons sacrified humans to their gods. Judaism, christianity and islam is totaly against this

Christians tortured and executed about 30,000 people for witchcraft in the 17th century. That would be about 500,000 today.

Christians enslaved people without any moral obligation, all because they interpreted the Bible a self-serving way. It took a war to resolve the issue in the USA.

And let’s not forget that it was Christians who committed the Holocaust.

So OK, no human sacrifice (except for Jesus, but that was God anyway).

 

[F1fan]

Nowhere in Christian scriptures does it say that people should make human sacrifices

Jesus was a very special man, it was
an exception

So just the one human sacrifice (that isn’t recognized by Jews or Muslims).

 

[Ebionite]

How does the intent change the interpretation in this case?

An early Christian interpretation was that the near sacrifice of Isaac was meaningful for faith in resurrection.

By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Accounting that God [was] able to raise [him] up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
Hebrews 11:17-19

But a boast to a sibling is hardly worthy of death, which makes the idea of resurrection a non-sequitur.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Christians tortured and executed about 30,000 people for witchcraft in the 17th century. That would be about 500,000 today.

Christians enslaved people without any moral obligation, all because they interpreted the Bible a self-serving way. It took a war to resolve the issue in the USA.

And let’s not forget that it was Christians who committed the Holocaust.

So OK, no human sacrifice (except for Jesus, but that was God anyway).

I think you'll find it was humans who did all those things; and no society (or very few) has ever been exempt, regardless of professed belief.

 

[F1fan]

I think you'll find it was humans who did all those things;

Not just any humans, but children of God who are saved by the blood of Christ.

If you are going to render religion as irrelevant to how humans behave then what use are they? How often do believers claim a moral superiority over atheists because they believe? We should see believers behave in a remarkably stable and moral way that makes them stand out among all other humans, but they don’t. We see atheists act more like Jesus than mist fervent Christians.

and no society (or very few) has ever been exempt, regardless of professed belief.

Then what use is religion if it can’t improve the human condition and temptations to commit wrongdoing?

Christianity as an ideology was not strong enough to even stop believers from committing the Holocaust.

 

[Firenze]

God did not want Abraham to sacrifice his son.
Because of this a angel of the lord said to abraham:

But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him
Genesis 22

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And I’m sure it was a delightfully spiritual experience for Isaac to be laying there waiting to be murdered. Not a great example of the ‘good’, is it?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Or some folks take exception to the suggestion that "no human sacrifice" is somehow unique to Abrahamic religions.

Christianity cannot claim no human sacrifice if by anything through the story of Christ dying on the cross to atone for sins.

The sacrificial lamb? The blood of christ?

Common inferences throughout the religions narrative.

 

[Ebionite]

And I’m sure it was a delightfully spiritual experience for Isaac to be laying there waiting to be murdered. Not a great example of the ‘good’, is it?

According to the book of Jasher Isaac brought it upon himself.

 

[Firenze]

According to the book of Jasher Isaac brought it upon himself.

Which one? The one written in 1613, or the even more spurious one written in 1750? Doesn't matter. Neither are in the canon, and the scholarly consensus is that Isaac was a boy of 12 or younger, so, unlikely to have done anything to bring a death sentence on himself.

 

[Ebionite]

So why does Abraham follow the order? He believes the Lord.

Abram didn't always believe.

And he said unto him, I [am] YHWH that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
And he said, Lord YHWH, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
Genesis 15:7-8

 

[Ebionite]

Which one? The one written in 1613, or the even more spurious one written in 1750? Doesn't matter. Neither are in the canon, and the scholarly consensus is that Isaac was a boy of 12 or younger, so, unlikely to have done anything to bring a death sentence on himself.

"even more spurious" ? You fail, just like the various traditions of what is canonical.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I'm not aware of any non-Abrahamic religions that are currently sacrificing humans.

That's because the Abrahamic faiths stamped them out. Say what you want about the atrocities of teh Conquistadors. If it had not been for them, Aztecs would still be ripping out still-beating hearts today.