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[Semjase]

Corroborated prophecies-

In a Wasserman publication in 1978,Meier foretold the launch of a space telescope at the end of 1980s that would make unfathomable discoveries in space,and wrote that a comet would be discovered in the late 1980s to early 1990s, it would be named Toutatis,and may threaten earth in September 29 2004.
Collaborated April 1990,Hubble telescope was launched.
Collaborated 1989,French astronomers discovered a comet (asteroid) , named it Toutatis, and
predicted it would come close to Earth on September 29 2004.

There is further evidence on 2 similar websites titled Semjase.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Semjase, if you, or Mr. Meier, can provide the edition of "Existentes Leben Im Universum” published in 1978, (Can't seem to find it in The Library of Congress records), rather than the edition published in 1991, it would go a long way towards fortifying your claim.

 

[fallingblood]

Corroborated prophecies-

In a Wasserman publication in 1978,Meier foretold the launch of a space telescope at the end of 1980s that would make unfathomable discoveries in space,and wrote that a comet would be discovered in the late 1980s to early 1990s, it would be named Toutatis,and may threaten earth in September 29 2004.

I would like to see the publication. But really, the "predictions" are so vague that it isn't impressive that they were correct. In 1978, we have already planned on launching a telescope in space. In fact, we have been planning it for quite some time. In fact, we had already started launching telescopes into space in the 70's anyway. The fact that we launched another in the late 80's isn't a surprise, as we had plans on continuing to do such. Not to mention that the late 80's is a considerably long period of time.

As for a comment being discovered sometime in the late 80's to early 90's isn't surprising either, as we are talking about a decade worth of time. Not to mention, we were getting better at it anyway because of the advancements in space exploration. The fact that he had to make such vague predictions should tell us that he was just guessing.

And the prediction that the comet might threaten earth in 2004 simply was false.

Collaborated April 1990,Hubble telescope was launched.

And it have been planned for some time. It was planned before he even made his prediction. Not really a prediction if the plan was already out there.

Collaborated 1989,French astronomers discovered a comet (asteroid) , named it Toutatis, and
predicted it would come close to Earth on September 29 2004.

Didn't threaten Earth though. We have objects coming close to Earth all of the time. More so, I would bet that your guy didn't predict the name, or when exactly it would come close to our planet.

There is further evidence on 2 similar websites titled Semjase.

And I'm sure they are all poor just like there.

Basically, his predictions are so vague (and he even says that they are subject to change) that it is no wonder he gets some right.

 

[Sir Doom]

Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!

 

[Semjase]

Don't pass judgement until looked you've at all the evidence. A lot rides on the authenticity of The Talmud Jmmanuel. I don't have the necessary posts to put a link here. I think its that important for
the authenticity of that manuscript to be determined.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Don't pass judgement until looked you've at all the evidence.

As I said, if you, or Mr. Meier, can provide the edition of "Existentes Leben Im Universum” published in 1978, (Can't seem to find it in The Library of Congress records), rather than the edition published in 1991, it would go a long way towards fortifying your claim.

 

[Semjase]

After some quick searching on the web the German publisher said there was no 1978 "
copy of "Existentes Leben Im". Although I did find one testimonial that when he found
that information out he laughed because he had seen excerpts from the book in periodicals
from the publisher in 1978. Maybe someone was silenced here. You can't put the authenticity of The Talmud of Jmmanuel on one fact.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

One should never base their reliance on a text based on supposed predictions and prophecies, regardless of whether it existed before the fact or not. Nearly every religion has them, and they can be found throughout history in various cultures. Predictions and prophecies are worthless in determining the truth value of a text. Something like this, especially that's apparently of religious value, should be judged based on the fact that it has the power to change people from within, for the better. If it can't do that, then it's worthless, regardless of any other claim made about it.

 

[Semjase]

Prophecies are all over world its not that important here. Were did this manuscript
come from, did someone just dream it up.It has to have author, who, for what reason.

 

[Riverwolf]

Prophecies are all over world its not that important here. Were did this manuscript
come from, did someone just dream it up.It has to have author, who, for what reason.

Hoax?

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

I agree with Riverwolf, it's more than likely the product of someone's imagination, for what reason, who knows. People, especially in modern times, have produced all kinds of "authentic" texts that supposedly reveals some "hidden" religious truth. There's no reason to believe that this is anything more than a hoax.

 

[fallingblood]

Hoax?

I agree with this as well. And it wouldn't be the first hoax of this nature.

 

[Semjase]

The problem with that analysis that like saying aliens don't exist, and crop circles
all created by hoaxers. You can't just dismiss this story out of hand without
doing extensive research to get to the bottom of it.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

Based on the amount of texts that are supposedly "new finds" that are supposed to be authentic words by and/or about Jesus, that have appeared in the last few decades, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it being a hoax is the safe and logical answer. I will agree with you that research needs to be done before one can come to a full conclusion on the matter, but preliminary analysis shows that it is nothing more than a hoax.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Corroborated prophecies-

In a Wasserman publication in 1978...

After some quick searching on the web the German publisher said there was no 1978 "
copy of "Existentes Leben Im". Although I did find one testimonial that when he found
that information out he laughed because he had seen excerpts from the book in periodicals
from the publisher in 1978. Maybe someone was silenced here. You can't put the authenticity of The Talmud of Jmmanuel on one fact.

Interesting.



Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

 

[Semjase]

How true that is,you believe in God, basically on the strength of his name there really isn't a lot
more to go on.When it comes to God too you should practice what you preach, if everyone in
the world did the world would be a lot safer place to be.

 

[fallingblood]

The problem with that analysis that like saying aliens don't exist, and crop circles
all created by hoaxers. You can't just dismiss this story out of hand without
doing extensive research to get to the bottom of it.

Actually, we don't have to do any research to dismiss such a claim. If the person purporting the claim can not show evidence that said claim is true, or is supported, then those who reject that claim really don't have to do anything.

You have the burden of proof. You made a claim that goes against the consensus. Unless you can show that the consensus is wrong, then there is no reason to accept the new information.

 

[Semjase]

I agree, its only fair to accept an extraordinary claim, would require any rational thinking person
to have some solid evidence to back it.

 

[Riverwolf]

The problem with that analysis that like saying aliens don't exist, and crop circles
all created by hoaxers. You can't just dismiss this story out of hand without
doing extensive research to get to the bottom of it.

You're right. But if a positive claim of hoax cannot be made definitively, then neither can a positive claim of authenticity.

And in logic, the default stance is false until proven true.

After all, there have been several religious hoaxes through the years.

 

[Semjase]

What a surprise, since proofs are science, science wins over religion.